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Giles Milton

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Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And essentially, this is what he tried to do with the Banda Islands.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And we'll come on to the massacre because this is not a pleasant story.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

No.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

But compare it to the English.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

I don't know if I'm getting ahead of myself here, but when the English come to Run Island, what they do, they sign a treaty with the islanders and they bring Run Island under the...

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

under the control of the English.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And the treaty document still exists.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And I'll just read you.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

It says, "'And whereas King James, by the grace of God, "'is King of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, "'he is now, by the mercy of God, King of Run.'"

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And as one of the sea dogs quipped, I really shouldn't say this, Willie, while you're here, but as one sea dog quipped, Run Island was going to prove far more profitable than Scotland ever had done.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

But probably true.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

So Nathaniel Courtaubes, who's to play an absolutely sort of central role to the whole story of what happened in the Bandar Islands, he was an employee of the East India Company.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Not much is known about him, his early life, although subsequent to writing the book, I found that his house still exists in Cranbrook in Kent, a beautiful half-timbered Elizabethan mansion.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Anyway, he set sail on one of the East India Company voyages, which was

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

An extraordinary adventure.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They took, you know, several years to get to the Spice Islands.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Worth reminding listeners of the hazards they faced, storms, the doldrums in the Atlantic where the winds calmed and the ships couldn't move at all.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

This is the original word that gives us doldrums.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Exactly.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Yes.