Gina Daly

And I was more interested in that angle.

I'd like to have heard from the women.

And then what I found very worrying, I suppose, is whenever these guys went outside, they were screamed at by young boys would see them and they'd have their mobile phones and be like, Sophie, Sophie.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Maybe like, look, I think your man, HS Tiki Taki, he is basically filming his life.

He's like for eight hours.

He could be live streaming.

That is hell.

Like hell on earth.

So he is constantly trying

to come up with the next thing, the next thing, because he's earning money, the more clicks he's getting, the more likes he's getting.

I think it was the type of documentary that Louis Theroux would have loved.

Like, you know, it would have just been the documentary if he'd had Andrew Tate.

Yes.

So it just, it kind of just misses the mark.

And I think like it was quite, I don't know if it made you,

like think about them, but like they showed pictures of these men who have huge followings very and then they create this negative energy all around the world.

But it showed them pictures of them as young boys and it showed them also online as young boys kind of starting out a little bit more innocent.

And that to me was a sadness.