Ginni Rometty

You know, that was her view.

And then my grandmother died.

another tragic life.

What did she do though?

And think how long, that's in the 40s, the 50s, she made lampshades.

And she taught me how to sew, right?

So I could sew clothes when we couldn't afford them.

But my memory of my grandma is working seven days a week, sewing lampshades.

And then here comes my mom in her situation who climbs her way out of it.

So I associate that

with, well, strong women, by the way, all strong women.

And I associate hard work with how you are sure you can always take care of yourself.

And so I think that the roots go way back there and they were always teaching something, right?

My great grandma was teaching me how to cook, how to work a farm, even though I didn't need to be on a farm.

My grandma taught me, you know, here's how to sew, here's how to run a business.

And then my mother would teach us that, look, with just a little bit of education, look at the difference it could make, right?

So anyways, that's a long answer too.

I think that hard work thing is really deeply rooted from that background.

Yeah, you know, I think I've seen you on other podcasts say, I thought I did.

Do you want a plan B?