Ginni Rometty

Didn't you say, no, you would not like a plan B?

Yeah, I don't want a plan B. Because you're like, I would prefer my back up against, am I remembering?

True enough.

True enough, that's true.

I learned that very well.

But I also think that maybe this isn't the same kind of plan B. I think of it as, like I was taught, always be able to take care of yourself.

Don't have to rely on someone else.

And I think that to me, so that's my plan B. I can take care of myself.

And it's even after what I lived through with my father, I thought, well, this set a bar for bad.

After this, nothing's bad.

And that is a very freeing thought.

It's a really interesting question because I was just talking to another colleague who's CEO of another great American company this weekend.

And he mentioned to me about all this adversity.

And he said, or I said to him, I said,

do you think part of your success is because you had bad stuff happen?

And he said yes.

And so I guess I'd be lying if I didn't say, I don't think you have to have tragedy, but it does teach you one really important thing, is that there is always a way forward.

Always.

And it's in your control.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of my friends, and they worry.