Gleb Budman

Exactly.

And so revenue on the business backup side is actually increases, does not decrease.

So we make more money from customers that add more licenses than we churn.

It's over 100.

I don't actually have that at my fingertips.

Okay.

Because we have to do different things for different product clients.

So we do for the business back and computer backup, consumer computer backup side of things.

So in rough numbers, a consumer is worth about $400 in lifetime revenue to us.

And on the business side, it just depends how many licenses they sign up or how much storage they decide to purchase from us.

People are based mostly in headquarters in San Mateo, California, though we have a number of people near our data centers out in Sacramento and in Phoenix, Arizona.

And then we have a smattering around other places.

So in 2012, it was about a $25 million valuation.

Pre or post?

I think that was pre.

So pre-money.

I'm slightly fuzzy at this moment.

Yeah, it's a great team.

And every single person that started with us 10 years ago is still here today.

That's amazing.