Glenn Freeman

And Braun added that they made for quite an incompatible lineup as they wanted completely different things.

So whenever Benetton went testing, they'd get really varied opinions on the car, which made it difficult to pick a development direction.

And he said that adding Berger to the team was the worst thing we could have done.

Ben, should Benetton have looked for another solution for the second car rather than just going, let's bring Berger over from Ferrari as well?

Is that really getting back at them?

It's like, oh no, you've taken Gerhard Berger from us.

Well, exactly.

With respect to Gerhard, Gerhard's a very great character, solid driver, won races, good reputation, a great part of the V10 era.

But we've just established that he's not really been a match in speed terms for Jean Alessi.

I don't think you're really harming the Ferrari beast particularly.

And Gerhard didn't want to stay there anyway, as far as I could tell, because he didn't want to be Schumacher's number two.

No, exactly.

I think it's...

Okay, so we're suggesting that there could have been logic here, but we don't think that was the logic that was applied.

I think that's fair.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so it proved to be.

Now, another issue caused by signing two established drivers was that Benetton's lineup was now much more expensive than it had been during the Schumacher years.

Pat Simmons said in Damien Smith's Benetton book that both Alessi and Berger were on big money financially.