Glenn Greenwald

aggressively insisting that he de-platform those people.

And when he refused, he lost millions and millions of dollars in donations, which is not an easy thing to do.

And then he himself also started openly questioning it.

You know, having those kind of town halls where young people, young conservatives could come and express their reservations about Israel.

This became extremely scary.

To people who care most about Israel because they've kind of written off the American left.

The Democratic Party is sort of on its way to becoming more hostile to Israel.

And so keeping the American right in line, especially evangelicals who Charlie represented, you know, this kind of younger evangelical sector of the American right to now have anti-Israel sentiment contaminating that.

with the person that they thought was always going to be the one who would sort of shape this new generation to think in very pro-Israel ways.

That was extremely alarming to them.

And the evidence of that is what he endured.

Well, very quickly, you don't hear any Israel skepticism from Talking Point anymore.

To the extent that Talking Point is Erica Kirk and the people who were on Charlie's staff who have now taken over his podcast, that's gone.

But I don't think Talking Point is...

going to be nearly as influential without Charlie, who's an extremely charismatic person, exceptionally good at personal networking and relationships.

And without him, it's just kind of like a, you know, it's got a big potting corporation.

I don't think it has a lot of robust energy to it.

So yeah, it'll be pro-Israel in exchange for money.

But I just don't think it'll wield anywhere near the same influence it once did.

Yeah, exactly.