Glenn Greenwald

It's like a theater kid sort of behavior that draws attention to herself, but it's not because of any interesting or compelling or substantive ideas.

She's really, there is nothing radical about her unless you just think that ordinary Democratic Party politics is radical.

And then on the J.D.

Vance side,

I always wondered about J.D.

Vance's ability to be a compelling politician because of that lack of kind of overt charisma.

And the thing that really convinced me that I don't think he'll ever be, obviously, in comparison to Trump, that's almost like a bar too high for anybody, or even like Obama or Clinton, like the great politicians.

He doesn't have that.

But when he debated Tim Walz and he was able to modulate

how he was speaking and conducting himself while at the same time being uncompromising on his views, knowing that it was America's really first impression of him.

And it was a very kind of, you know, kind of sandpaper the sharp edges off and the ability to do that for 90 minutes, no matter how much they're trying to provoke you, while at the same time delivering your message effectively.

And I think the more he's on the national stage, the better he's going to get.

No Democrat, I promise you, wants 2028 to be J.D.

Vance versus AOC, no matter what.

how much AOC is doing her little fake dances for journalists when asked.

Well, and I think also, you know, we have to remember that he is still quite young and he has had a lot of very kind of contradictory impulses, right?

Like he grew up as, you know, in the way that you described, but like a very, you know, familiar now, like working class family with addiction and all kinds of family problems.

And then suddenly he's in Ivy League schools and he's with Peter Thiel and he's, you know, in high finance in Silicon Valley, hating Donald Trump.

And then he starts evolving politically as well.

And sometimes it just takes a while in life to find yourself, like to feel comfortable with who you are, to really have a good sense of self-possession.