Glenn Greenwald

He brings people along with him.

running the FBI is an entirely different skill set.

And I think a lot of people in the MAGA movement, because of how validly critical they were of these institutions, decided that the people who are there for their whole career, who have the quote-unquote expertise, all need to be thrown out.

And I totally understand that and in part even agree with it.

But it doesn't mean that you can just

pop up some guy who's a very talented podcaster and put him in this like administrative job that he obviously doesn't want to be in.

Like, sorry, but getting to work at 7.30 and leaving at seven o'clock inside an office, that is not exactly uncommon.

That's not a backbreaking job.

That's the experience of most Americans.

Like you go out to your office, you're separated from your family, your kids.

because you're working.

Dan Bongino made it sound like he was carrying the cross of the crucifix on his back for days.

And I just think it kind of illustrates that humility is needed to realize what you're good at and what you're not.

Yeah, let me just say one thing, though, and it's not really like disagreeing per se, but I think just for me at least a more precise way to explain it.

I don't think these institutions are filled with what I would call leftists.

Like I've never met a leftist who says my goal is to go work at the FBI or become like a CIA operative.

I think what these people are are more like establishment operatives.

They're like institutionalists.

These are people who want to protect the permanent power faction in Washington that's really not subject to elections.

And you can put people at the top who are determined to kind of blow it all up.