Glenn Greenwald

That's not a backbreaking job.

That's the experience of most Americans.

Like you go out to your office, you're separated from your family, your kids.

because you're working.

Dan Bongino made it sound like he was carrying the cross of the crucifix on his back for days.

And I just think it kind of illustrates that humility is needed to realize what you're good at and what you're not.

Yeah, let me just say one thing, though, and it's not really like disagreeing per se, but I think just for me at least a more precise way to explain it.

I don't think these institutions are filled with what I would call leftists.

Like I've never met a leftist who says my goal is to go work at the FBI or become like a CIA operative.

I think what these people are are more like establishment operatives.

They're like institutionalists.

These are people who want to protect the permanent power faction in Washington that's really not subject to elections.

And you can put people at the top who are determined to kind of blow it all up.

But, you know, being at the top doesn't mean that the entire infrastructure under you that's been cultivated for decades and these people are inculcated about how these institutions should work

They can easily resist, you know, the comings and goings of politicians.

Every American president has discovered that, that there's this huge part of Washington that they nominally control, but that they don't really have any ability to change at all, no matter how much they want to.

And I bet you that was also part of Dan Bongino's frustration is you can get in there and say, OK, we're in control now.

We're going to fix this institution.

And yet, you know, you can't just get rid of the entire FBI.

There's experienced, you know, operatives in there and investigators.