Glenn Greenwald

You know, it's funny.

I don't think anyone's ever asked that.

You know, yeah, I have.

Yeah.

I mean, I do think part of the issue is, is that it is different.

Like Mike Johnson and his wife have been married 20 years.

They have seven kids.

They adopted two.

They have five biological kids, you know?

So I think people are more open to the fact that, you know, if you want to know Mike Johnson, you kind of have to

No, his family and his wife.

Like, that is an important part of a politician's public profile.

A girlfriend is different.

They're young.

There have been—and even though, yes, it is true he does have to fly on the FBI private plane, when you have enemies inside the FBI, as we just talked about, resisting his reform, and they're leaking things like he's constantly taking his private plane to Las Vegas, he's constantly taking it to Nashville to see her shows—

I just, as you said, it just, it rubs people the wrong way when people are economically struggling, when there's already a perception that people in the political class live this way.

And I agree with you, it's a poor decision to go in and do it, but I do question whether he felt kind of compelled.

It just, I don't know.

That's an interesting wrinkle.

You're right, I'm not the target audience.