Glenn Greenwald

They adopted two.

They have five biological kids, you know?

So I think people are more open to the fact that, you know, if you want to know Mike Johnson, you kind of have to

No, his family and his wife.

Like, that is an important part of a politician's public profile.

A girlfriend is different.

They're young.

There have been—and even though, yes, it is true he does have to fly on the FBI private plane, when you have enemies inside the FBI, as we just talked about, resisting his reform, and they're leaking things like he's constantly taking his private plane to Las Vegas, he's constantly taking it to Nashville to see her shows—

I just, as you said, it just, it rubs people the wrong way when people are economically struggling, when there's already a perception that people in the political class live this way.

And I agree with you, it's a poor decision to go in and do it, but I do question whether he felt kind of compelled.

It just, I don't know.

That's an interesting wrinkle.

You're right, I'm not the target audience.

I think I should follow the Doug Brunt rule.

I didn't enjoy listening to those clips.

During the party he was approaching people there asking questions that in that context seemed confrontational, strange, especially are you famous, asking people there are you famous.

So you can imagine a party of actual famous people and fame adjacent people who are really used to

Strange behavior out in public, but here they are at a gathering of their peers at a party hosted by Conan.

It was unsettling to see.

So Bill Hader was one of the people he approached at the party.