Glenn Greenwald

You go to any other country and you're shocked when you compare their airports, their roads, their bridges to the United States where everything is falling apart.

put people back to work.

So, you know, it's not just a binary choice.

I think it's a question of who's benefiting specifically and who isn't.

I mean, our communities, you know, this was the whole promise of the Trump project.

In fact, if you go back and look at Steve Bannon's plan for the Trump 2016 campaign, which even though I had long been associated with the left in my work, I found very interesting and appealing.

Steve Bannon's plan was we get into office, we raise taxes on the rich.

We used that money to do a bipartisan infrastructure bill with the Democrats.

We renew America's infrastructure, put hundreds of thousands of people back to work with good paying, you know, American based, even unionized jobs.

And then we closed the border.

That was the recipe that Steve Bannon envisioned.

That was like the America first recipe for for improving the United States.

And basically none of that was done in the first term.

That's because Jared Kushner won his power battle with Steve Bannon.

And instead we had corporate tax cuts and tax cuts on the rich, no infrastructure bill.

The border wasn't closed and a kind of traditional, more traditional foreign policy.

So I still think that vision of having, you know, America's Rust Belt and the Heartland revitalized so that our communities aren't plagued by unemployment and addiction and suicide and depression and everybody on all sorts of, you know, pills and our communities falling apart.

And therefore, like the spirituality and the soul of the United States is disintegrating as well.

That's what needs renewal more than anything else.

But you cannot do that if you continue to just