Glenn Greenwald

give huge tax cuts to the rich, and at the same time, spend, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars on endless foreign wars, which is exactly what we're doing right as we speak.

No, I mean, you know, I've always tried to avoid this very melodramatic rhetoric, but it does feel like late stage imperial collapse.

I mean, if you look at how other empires have collapsed, there's a lot of lashing out, a lot of insecurity.

And then it usually is driven by internal dissension by from a.

loss of identity and purpose.

And, you know, if you look at, a lot of it is just modern day life, right?

And it was exacerbated by COVID, the fact that we no longer, you know, spend our times in churches or union halls or community centers.

We live in these gigantic cities.

You know, if you want to start a family, it's very difficult.

Both parents have to work outside the house.

People are losing religion.

They're losing spirituality.

They're increasingly isolated.

All the things that human beings need to feel fulfilled, the connection and community and purpose, all of that is disintegrating along with our communities.

They're kind of disintegrating together.

And so, of course, you're going to have people feeling like they're lost societally.

And I think, you know, polls overall when you show that, especially in the richer countries, ironically, in the West, that's how people increasingly feel.

I see spirituality as a net positive, one expression of which is religion.

I think if we don't... To me, I am not a theologian, but I have studied, to some extent, various religions.

And I do feel like...