Glenn Greenwald

People decided that it wasn't worth it anymore.

That's why imperialism was renounced.

And this idea that we're going to go back to it

I thought the whole point of the Trump movement was we're going to focus our resources here at home.

We're going to invest in our communities, in our people.

We don't want to build up the military industrial complex.

We don't want to constantly be fighting wars.

And like overnight, all of that vanished.

And now we're right back to this sort of like Lindsey Graham, Bill Kristol model of the world that I thought the Obama movement was about renouncing.

He was twitching with like ecstasy.

I mean, I've never seen him smiling that much and why wouldn't he?

I don't blame him.

He's getting what he wants.

Here's the thing that's bothering me, Megan.

When I was comparing Trump's foreign policy instincts to the Democrats under Biden and Harris, and also especially Hillary Clinton, what always struck me about Donald Trump, and I said this many times on television and other places,

is that when he talked about war, he talked about war and prioritized the most important thing about it, which is that people in large numbers die.

You bomb people.

And we talk about bombing, but there's people on the ground who are now dead, innocent people.

He talks about the war in Ukraine.

He always is emphasizing the number of people who are died in a way that I think is very important and very healthy.