Glenn Greenwald

And I don't think there was a lot of that.

And I think the reason is because especially when it comes to the free speech question, which we devoted the first 30 to 40 minutes to, even if you are pro-Israel, even if you want, for whatever reason, the American worker to have to finance and subsidize Israeli society and the Israeli military,

People still, to be American, doesn't mean that many things these days.

But one of the things it definitely means is this kind of instinctive belief in the idea of free speech.

The government can prohibit ideas or render ideas off limits.

And increasingly, the government has been doing that in various ways in the name of shielding Israel from criticism.

And I think even people who are pro-Israel just react very poorly to that.

And there's no question that's happening.

It's very difficult to deny.

especially if you are well-informed about these developments and can easily demonstrate that it is.

And so I think that made it more difficult for him.

Well, I mean, let's remember, you know, Facebook is owned by Mark Zuckerberg, who is very close to the Israeli government.

I think Elon Musk deserves some credit in that he's resisted this a lot.

There's been efforts to pressure him to impose censorship in defense of Israel.

There's some occasions where he has capitulated, but by and large, he's kept it a pretty free speech platform overall.

There's certainly no shortage of Israel criticism on X.

But at the same time, you know, this is not a new phenomenon.

At BDI, I can show you endless examples demonstrating all of this.

After October 7th, when...

support for Israel was no longer sustainable simply because people were seeing its true face in Gaza and not just in Gaza, but also how captive the U.S.