Glenn Greenwald

And I went in and we got him.

Like he risked the lives of soldiers and our military and potentially started a new war in Venezuela because he didn't like the fact that Maduro was dancing.

And I do believe that was part of the motive because none of the rest of it makes sense in terms of what it is that we did here.

The last thing I just want to say quickly, Megan, if I could, is like, even if a country is weaker, even if a country doesn't have the military that the United States has, people just instinctively have nationalistic pride, just like the United States does.

If we get attacked or people threaten us, we unite behind our government against them.

That is what countries do.

And if Venezuelans, including ones who don't like Maduro, who hate Maduro, think the United States is there to take their oil and use it for the benefit of big oil companies or Americans, of course they're going to fight the United States.

And not just they, but people throughout the region.

It's going to generate the kind of anti-American sentiment that we saw and still see in the Middle East because of the same behavior.

There's long-term consequences to all of this, no matter how triumphalist people might be feeling right now.

OK, let me let me just address that.

First of all,

Democrats despise George Bush and Dick Cheney.

They believed he stole the 2000 election.

But the minute our country was attacked, almost everybody united behind George Bush and Dick Cheney, not for like a week or for a month, but for like two or three years, gave them license to go and attack Iraq.

He had 75, 80% approval rating.

I'll just give you a quick analogy.

In Brazil, where as you know, I live and I do reporting,

A few months ago, Donald Trump announced he was going to impose tariffs on Brazil, sanction Brazilian leaders because he didn't want Jair Bolsonaro, the former president who Trump likes, going to prison.

He doesn't like other policies that Brazil is enacting.