Glenn Greenwald
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And huge numbers of Brazilians, including ones who hate the government, who hate the current president, Lula da Silva, united and said โ
it's not the United States that governs our country.
We govern our country.
We decide how Brazilians and Brazil is governed, not the United States.
There's always this unifying feeling.
The problem is, is that exiles or people who left Venezuela, you know, we used to hear from like before the Iraq war, these Iraqi exiles who kept telling us, oh, they're going to be dancing in the streets.
They're going to welcome you as liberators.
They weren't representative of the people who are actually in Iraq, who remember are indoctrinated with all kinds of things.
OK, first of all, this discourse is completely contrary to everything else we've been hearing for years from the conservative movement, which is the idea that Venezuelans and other Latin Americans, Central Americans, Latin Americans cannot come to our country and assimilate because they are primitive.
They don't share our values.
They can't.
understand liberal democracy.
They can't integrate into American culture the way, say, Europeans could, Italians could, the Irish could.
It's a different race.
It's a different culture.
This is something that we've been hearing for a long time.
Now, suddenly, Venezuelans are very aligned with us and similar to us and are ready to adopt Jeffersonian democracy in a way that the Iraqis weren't.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is,
Most of the people in these countries, in Venezuela and elsewhere, are poor people.