Glenn Greenwald

Yeah, I mean, me too. First of all, I do often want to be a little bit humble about our ability to judge a relationship from afar. I mean, there were certainly all kinds of speculation that the Clintons were going to divorce the minute they got their chance, and here they are in their mid-70s, and they're still married. The Trumps too. Yeah, I mean, exactly.

Oh, there was all kinds of speculation about Melania hating Trump and wouldn't even... And the reality is, even if you do love your spouse, there are times you're going to fight with them. The only reasons that you get those negative emotions is because you love them and care enough. What I find weird, Megan, is...

Oh, there was all kinds of speculation about Melania hating Trump and wouldn't even... And the reality is, even if you do love your spouse, there are times you're going to fight with them. The only reasons that you get those negative emotions is because you love them and care enough. What I find weird, Megan, is...

Oh, there was all kinds of speculation about Melania hating Trump and wouldn't even... And the reality is, even if you do love your spouse, there are times you're going to fight with them. The only reasons that you get those negative emotions is because you love them and care enough. What I find weird, Megan, is...

I can't imagine going on a podcast publicly and talking about what, obviously, I do think those resentments are real that she's sharing. These kind of complaints about your husband. Not like, you know, you could do it in a light way, in a humorous way, like the differences between a husband and wife or whatever. But she seems like that is pretty...

I can't imagine going on a podcast publicly and talking about what, obviously, I do think those resentments are real that she's sharing. These kind of complaints about your husband. Not like, you know, you could do it in a light way, in a humorous way, like the differences between a husband and wife or whatever. But she seems like that is pretty...

I can't imagine going on a podcast publicly and talking about what, obviously, I do think those resentments are real that she's sharing. These kind of complaints about your husband. Not like, you know, you could do it in a light way, in a humorous way, like the differences between a husband and wife or whatever. But she seems like that is pretty...

I don't know, pretty intimate and pretty deep about what she seems to find unsatisfying about her marriage to Barack Obama in a way that, I don't know, just makes me uncomfortable. That's the sort of thing that you work on with a marriage counselor or in therapy or something. Why is she saying so much, as you say, that's very negative? The only reason we know her is because of her husband.

I don't know, pretty intimate and pretty deep about what she seems to find unsatisfying about her marriage to Barack Obama in a way that, I don't know, just makes me uncomfortable. That's the sort of thing that you work on with a marriage counselor or in therapy or something. Why is she saying so much, as you say, that's very negative? The only reason we know her is because of her husband.

I don't know, pretty intimate and pretty deep about what she seems to find unsatisfying about her marriage to Barack Obama in a way that, I don't know, just makes me uncomfortable. That's the sort of thing that you work on with a marriage counselor or in therapy or something. Why is she saying so much, as you say, that's very negative? The only reason we know her is because of her husband.

Um, and yeah, you're right. You know, I went and worked for a major law firm, uh, when I graduated law school on, on wall street and it, you know, I left in two years cause it was so soul crushing. And all of this that she's complaining about is what lifted her into this figure that she benefited from in so many ways.

Um, and yeah, you're right. You know, I went and worked for a major law firm, uh, when I graduated law school on, on wall street and it, you know, I left in two years cause it was so soul crushing. And all of this that she's complaining about is what lifted her into this figure that she benefited from in so many ways.

Um, and yeah, you're right. You know, I went and worked for a major law firm, uh, when I graduated law school on, on wall street and it, you know, I left in two years cause it was so soul crushing. And all of this that she's complaining about is what lifted her into this figure that she benefited from in so many ways.

Like she writes books and they go to the New York times bestseller list because she was married to Barack Obama. I don't know. I find that strange. Like you have to have a lot of negative resentment inside of you toward your husband. If you start a podcast and you immediately start kind of complaining about what happens inside your marriage and blame him for it.

Like she writes books and they go to the New York times bestseller list because she was married to Barack Obama. I don't know. I find that strange. Like you have to have a lot of negative resentment inside of you toward your husband. If you start a podcast and you immediately start kind of complaining about what happens inside your marriage and blame him for it.

Like she writes books and they go to the New York times bestseller list because she was married to Barack Obama. I don't know. I find that strange. Like you have to have a lot of negative resentment inside of you toward your husband. If you start a podcast and you immediately start kind of complaining about what happens inside your marriage and blame him for it.

Yeah, honestly, that really struck me too. I mean, over the last, I think like six years now, it's kind of almost been like a conservative paranoia that the Democratic Party was maneuvering constantly to get rid of whoever was going to be their nominee and replace him with Michelle Obama.

Yeah, honestly, that really struck me too. I mean, over the last, I think like six years now, it's kind of almost been like a conservative paranoia that the Democratic Party was maneuvering constantly to get rid of whoever was going to be their nominee and replace him with Michelle Obama.

Yeah, honestly, that really struck me too. I mean, over the last, I think like six years now, it's kind of almost been like a conservative paranoia that the Democratic Party was maneuvering constantly to get rid of whoever was going to be their nominee and replace him with Michelle Obama.

That was in 2020 what we heard, in 2024 what we heard, because a lot of polls showed that she had this kind of popularity. But I think it was very surface level. Like it's easy to be popular if you've never run for office before, if you haven't really staked out a lot of positions and haven't had to.