Glenn Greenwald

It's like I could see huge numbers of people turning into Michelle Obama's podcast at the start just because, oh, it's something new and we find this person interesting. And then tailing off and she becomes less interesting. The fact that it's starting with these pathetic numbers, yeah. You know, I think it does illustrate what you're saying.

I saw a clip where she and her brother were debating whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich and trying to, you know, it's like, and again, this is what I mean. It's like Michelle Obama lives the ultimate jet setting life. She hangs around billionaires all the time. She's at the most, you know, like ostentatious galas. She's wearing, you know, $50,000 and $100,000 gowns everywhere.

I saw a clip where she and her brother were debating whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich and trying to, you know, it's like, and again, this is what I mean. It's like Michelle Obama lives the ultimate jet setting life. She hangs around billionaires all the time. She's at the most, you know, like ostentatious galas. She's wearing, you know, $50,000 and $100,000 gowns everywhere.

I saw a clip where she and her brother were debating whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich and trying to, you know, it's like, and again, this is what I mean. It's like Michelle Obama lives the ultimate jet setting life. She hangs around billionaires all the time. She's at the most, you know, like ostentatious galas. She's wearing, you know, $50,000 and $100,000 gowns everywhere.

And so then I'm trying to try and be relatable by talking to your brother about such a boring, you know, it's a hot dog, a sandwich. Wow. You think it isn't what this is? I just, no one's going to listen to this. Why would they?

And so then I'm trying to try and be relatable by talking to your brother about such a boring, you know, it's a hot dog, a sandwich. Wow. You think it isn't what this is? I just, no one's going to listen to this. Why would they?

And so then I'm trying to try and be relatable by talking to your brother about such a boring, you know, it's a hot dog, a sandwich. Wow. You think it isn't what this is? I just, no one's going to listen to this. Why would they?

Yeah, there's nothing charismatic about Craig, brother Craig. Although I will say, like, that is why I kind of thought she was being authentic in these complaints and grievances about Barack Obama, because she does seem close to her brother. She does seem to be talking to him in this way that maybe is more intimate.

Yeah, there's nothing charismatic about Craig, brother Craig. Although I will say, like, that is why I kind of thought she was being authentic in these complaints and grievances about Barack Obama, because she does seem close to her brother. She does seem to be talking to him in this way that maybe is more intimate.

Yeah, there's nothing charismatic about Craig, brother Craig. Although I will say, like, that is why I kind of thought she was being authentic in these complaints and grievances about Barack Obama, because she does seem close to her brother. She does seem to be talking to him in this way that maybe is more intimate.

She'd be willing to say things to him that she wouldn't be willing to say to a generalized interviewer. So I don't know. Maybe that's what they thought was going to be the appeal of the podcast. But it just seems very narcissistic, like just these two siblings talking about themselves and their relationship. I don't know.

She'd be willing to say things to him that she wouldn't be willing to say to a generalized interviewer. So I don't know. Maybe that's what they thought was going to be the appeal of the podcast. But it just seems very narcissistic, like just these two siblings talking about themselves and their relationship. I don't know.

She'd be willing to say things to him that she wouldn't be willing to say to a generalized interviewer. So I don't know. Maybe that's what they thought was going to be the appeal of the podcast. But it just seems very narcissistic, like just these two siblings talking about themselves and their relationship. I don't know.

Okay, so there's some things I agree with in what you said and some things I don't. So you repeatedly said, and I think it's totally appropriate, that these are alleged gang members. One of the reasons I stopped practicing law and started writing about politics and became a journalist in 2005, 2004, 2005 –

Okay, so there's some things I agree with in what you said and some things I don't. So you repeatedly said, and I think it's totally appropriate, that these are alleged gang members. One of the reasons I stopped practicing law and started writing about politics and became a journalist in 2005, 2004, 2005 –

Okay, so there's some things I agree with in what you said and some things I don't. So you repeatedly said, and I think it's totally appropriate, that these are alleged gang members. One of the reasons I stopped practicing law and started writing about politics and became a journalist in 2005, 2004, 2005 –

was because there were a lot of what I regarded as excesses, attacks on civil liberties in the name of the war on terror. One of the leading ones of which was that they were putting people in Guantanamo.

was because there were a lot of what I regarded as excesses, attacks on civil liberties in the name of the war on terror. One of the leading ones of which was that they were putting people in Guantanamo.

was because there were a lot of what I regarded as excesses, attacks on civil liberties in the name of the war on terror. One of the leading ones of which was that they were putting people in Guantanamo.

None of those detainees at Guantanamo ever had any even one-time right to go into court and contest the allegations against them, that they were part of terrorist organizations, that they had participated in. in Al Qaeda or any attacks on anyone. And as it turns out, a lot of them, even the US government admits, were actually innocent.