Glenn Jarvis

But, yeah, obviously things went pear-shaped in a big way and I don't enjoy thinking about that at all very much.

Yeah, just the generosity of spirit.

And what you said, they have been through a lot.

I think my friend Bill fought all the way through World War II and they just don't care about labels as much.

They're more prepared to take you as they find you.

I think there should be a program for people with schizophrenia where they get introduced to older people because you find that older people are kind of marginalised as well in a lot of ways.

I remember Bill had kind of lost a lot of his money and he was living in his cave under his daughter's house and he probably didn't have a lot of people to speak to as well.

So it was good having that relationship.

We both got a fair bit out of it, I think.