Glenn Loury
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197 appearances
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1 series
first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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Did you?
Yeah, they were great. They are a highbrow, serious, intellectually robust, critical, from the right observer about all manner of issues, about housing, about crime, about welfare issues. and other things, mostly American domestic politics.
And I signed on there a few years ago as a senior fellow and my podcast, The Glenn Show, which I put out content every week, was being sponsored by the Manhattan Institute.
Yeah, that's correct. They worry about race issues. They worry about crime and punishment-type issues. They worry about housing, about city politics, and things like that. And they have, you know, estimable scholars who are a part of the shop that produces these studies and commentaries and so on. And I signed on there as a senior fellow, John Pulse, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
And we parted company recently at their behest, both their sponsorship of my podcast and their employment of me as a senior fellow because of some of the public comments that I have made at my podcast and some of the people whom I have interviewed there, where the issue of the conflict in Palestine and Middle East and Gaza and Israel has come up.
And I ran afoul of the sensibility of my friend, Raihan Salam, who's president of the Manhattan Institute, wrote me saying that we review our scholarly relationships from time to time. This is practically a quote for productivity, and there's no question about my productivity. I've put a dozen articles in their city journal over the last five years. and shared priorities.
And so I assume it's that we don't share priorities. And the priorities that I assume we don't share have to do with me inviting an historian colleague of mine on the show, The Glenn Show, to talk about the post-October 7th, 2023 incursion of the IDF into Gaza, which he characterized in the same kind of language that
international human rights organizations have used as being, if not genocide, then in the same ballpark and something that one needs to be concerned about from a human rights perspective. He thinks the International Criminal Court and the International Court of Justice are right to take initiatives that are holding Israeli officials to account for the prosecution of that conflict.
And I had him on the show. Now, who is he? His name is Omer Bartov.
He's a student of the Holocaust, of the Nazi extermination campaign in Eastern Europe, and has written books about that. And he's been my colleague for 20 years at Brown. I've gotten to know him, and I knew that he was engaging these questions in a controversial manner, and I wanted to hear from him, so I had him on the show.
No, and there were objections coming from the staff at MI, and they asked that we not, in promoting the show, make mention of the Institute of the Manhattan Institute in connection with this particular episode. And there were other incidents. The Black American writer Ta-Nehisi Coates came out with a book called The Message, in which he describes writing about politics.
And there are several chapters. One reviews his first visit to Africa and talks about his encounter with the Senegalese and the complex dynamic of an African American life. thinking of himself as an African, but not really being an African in Africa.
Another essay describes him going to a small town in South Carolina that had banned one of his books because it's critical race theory, and finding that the people there were more complicated and interesting and malleable, that is open to discourse than he would have imagined. and sort of exposing the complexity of this moment in our cultural history of anti-racism and anti-anti-racism.
But the main bulk of the book is devoted in Coates' book, The Message, to recounting his experience as a visitor on the West Bank of Palestine. And he's appalled by what he sees, and he says so. And in conversation with John McWhorter, who is a regular conversation partner of mine at the podcast, I allowed us how I admired the book.
I said it was not without its flaws, and it should be understood that I have been sharply critical of Ta-Nehisi Coates' other writings.
He had a very famous essay in The Atlantic, I think 2014 or 2015, called The Case for Reparations, which I objected to and said so at length. And then he published a bestselling book called Between the World and Me, which was very widely praised and widely read. And I had deep problems with it, which I discussed at length on the podcast.
So I'm generally disposed to be a conservative critic of cults. But I admired the book, and I admired in particular the essay in which he reflected on what he saw in the West Bank. I didn't necessarily agree with all of his sensibilities and so on, but I thought it was an interesting, provocative, insightful, humane engagement with a difficult, very difficult set of issues.
Well, the party line on the book including at the Manhattan Institute, is this is unspeakable. This is a black guy who doesn't know what the F he's talking about, wandering around on the West Bank in the company of some anti-Zionist Jews, and coming back and talking about it as if it were, he uses the word apartheid. Colts uses the word apartheid. He said, what I saw in the West Bank.
This is the West Bank, not Gaza. was reminiscent to me of what I saw in South Africa. And I didn't like what I saw, and it's wrong. And I'm going to tell you why I think it's wrong. And I don't care what account you're giving of the history. He has read some of the history, but he's not deeply versed in the historical record of how
The circumstance in Palestine has come to be what it is, but his basic point is, look, I'm telling you what I'm seeing there is not healthy, it's not humane, and it's not right. And I had some appreciation for his courage to say so and for the artful way in which he said so. And I said so on the show.
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