Glenn Loury: Ousted for Opposing Middle Eastern Wars, MLK Files, & the One Thing Malcolm X Got Right
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Why was Glenn Loury ousted from the Manhattan Institute?
And I said, what has been proceeding there in Gaza is a collective punishment that I don't think is justified. And I got notified the next day the Manhattan Institute was discontinuing its relationship with me as a senior fellow.
If you'd said that about the United States, would you have gotten the same reaction? Ah, big question. Do you think you've been bamboozled?
Are we really going to go to war with Iran and turn the world economy upside down? Is it really Jim Crow 2.0 if they want to ask for a driver's license before you cast a ballot in Georgia?
I watched a couple of Malcolm X speeches, and it was like a totally different person from the one I was presented in high school. And I was like, well, why isn't this guy much more famous than he is now? One of the speeches, he goes off after white liberals, and he's like, you know, whites are bad, whites are a problem. But the real problem is white liberals. I was like, you go. Malcolm X. It almost feels like his message has been suppressed a little bit, maybe. Thank you, Professor, for coming. So you just, you told me last night at dinner that you just, after about 50 years, taught your last course at Brown. You just left Brown. Big picture question first. You've taught for so long. How has it changed?
Does critical thinking still exist in American universities?
You've taught at, you know, the most prestigious universities in the world. How have the schools changed? How have the students changed? Do you leave more hopeful or more concerned? Big question. Yeah, that's a big question. I'll admit it.
Well, I graduated high school 60 years ago. Whoa. Where? John Marshall Harlan High School, public school in Chicago. How is it now? I don't know, to be honest with you. I know that the community that houses it has gone into decline and it's become a part of the South Side problematic, which is Chicago with the violence and so on. It was a modest working upper, working lower middle class community. When I was at that school, it was integrated. There were 30 or 40 percent of the student body was white. I'm sure it's all black now and has been for some time. But I've lost touch with what's going on back there. But I'm just saying I've been around for a long time. Yeah, it's a long time. So I remember as I did my undergraduate at Northwestern University, graduated in 1972, the intensity of the intellectual experience of coming to the university. Yeah. I remember encountering the German language. I remember studying mathematics and economics and philosophy and politics. And I remember books. And I remember there being a certain devotion to the life of the mind. Yes.
I don't know that we've lost that, but it's, I think, less intense for our students today than it was when I was in college. It was the shadow of the Second World War. It was still only 25 years after the end of the conflict. That had, I think, its effect. It was the Vietnam era, and that had its effect. Even though it was the Vietnam era, it wasn't, in my experience, as political as I see the university has become today.
Wait, so right at the, I mean, there are probably, you got to campus in 1968?
I got to campus in 1970 at Northwestern. I started out at the Illinois Institute of Technology in 1965. I dropped out. I attended a community college for a couple of years, and then I re-enrolled at a major university as a scholarship student in 1970, graduated in 1972.
So there were Vietnam War protests going on on campuses all over the country. They were. But it was still, you think, less political than it is now?
Yeah, frankly, I do. First of all, not everybody was a protester or enmeshed in the ethos of protest. Some of us were just trying to get to class. In my own case, I was a full-time employee at a printing plant and a young father with a wife and two children, even as I was taking classes at Northwestern. My case is very unusual. I didn't really have time to protest. But it wasn't even for the other students. It wasn't all consuming. There were intense, engaged protest students, but there were also kids just going about their business.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
Why was Glenn Loury ousted from the Manhattan Institute?
0:00–1:29
2
Does critical thinking still exist in American universities?
1:29–12:23
3
How has MIT's academic environment changed over the years?
12:23–51:28
4
Why don't we debate economics anymore?
51:28–1:02:37
5
Was the Civil Rights Movement beneficial for Black Americans?
1:02:37–1:27:23
6
What did Malcolm X get right according to Glenn Loury?
1:27:23–1:36:09
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