Glenn Sizemore

You almost need a DevOps shop to have that conversation.

It's true.

It's been one of those learning curves.

I think our technology in a lot of ways has been well in advance of the operating practices of the industry.

And it's just a matter of like, yeah, we solved this problem well before the industry actually knew how to implement it.

And now it's been solved for so long that I think people are actually looking for new answers, even though the old one is still the better one.

Data Fabric.

Yeah, I think the ransomware example is probably one of the most crystal clear for this.

It's one of those where the second you say it, you go, well, of course, but you're right.

Unless you say it out loud, are they thinking about that?

Probably not.

They're probably off talking to some startup, getting ready to buy some box, which promises to be able to solve the problem, even though it won't because it's a people problem.

And it doesn't have snapshots.

Yeah, but to Jeffrey's point, like, there's a potential past where we make those optimizations, but without, like, the need that...

The requirement for the separate operating system is because the market self-declared that they wanted it, right?

The market self-declared, we want you to treat this as separate.

We want a separate product.

We want to buy it separately.

Stop trying to give us one thing that can do both.

We've already solved this problem.