Glennon Doyle

Then we don't have to look at this.

sickness of the whole unit and so people arrange their roles around that one too like then you have the hero I mean I think my sister takes on a lot of that and she doesn't have a lot of permission to be human because she was always the one who had to distract from this mess of a sister that she had and be prove the family was still good because she could achieve and you know all of these things that that happen and I think it's really if you want to panic everyone in your life attempt to change your role

I don't even know if I recommend it.

Everybody loses their shit because if you change your script, nobody knows what to say.

If you change your role, nobody knows what their role is.

Yes, I think we can become addicted to the script we were given when we were kids.

And I think we can be forgiven for it being very difficult to let go of that script because it means the communities that we've depended on the most lose it.

and we kind of lose belonging, and we mess everything up.

And I think it's probably the work of our lives.

I think if there's a hero's journey for each of us, it's probably undoing whatever script we were given when we were kids.

And I think if there's any freedom, it probably has to do with that.

But it's not an easy freedom.

It causes a lot of chaos.

What was the question?

Yes.

Okay.

So I will tell you a particular familial story that just happened a few days ago that I know is tied to this.

And I know that Abby would give me permission based on a lot of the other things that we just, that I've talked about here, what we're going to do to get our

the sacredness of our relationship back, to get capitalism out of our love, to get work dynamics out of our, anyway, a lot of that.

And Avi was talking about a project she wanted to do which had nothing to do with like relevance or attention or money or any of those metrics that we are taught to strive for and think that the only things that we do are worthy if they win those things.