Glennon Doyle

Right?

So when that was pointed out to me, I immediately, it was like biting my tongue and putting my, it's still hard for me.

Because I don't want women or anyone who's listening to me to think, oh, she got to leave because her husband was cheating on me.

I wish I could get to leave.

Like the desire to leave is enough to leave.

I think that the first thing that comes to mind when you say that is that I have, I think for the first time, I might be cultivating what people call a friend group.

I've never had one in my life because it feels very trappy and confusing to me and I never know.

Group dynamics are really hard for me.

But there's like these three or four couples that Abby and I know and they're all lesbians and I feel like safe with them and I feel like I understand them and I feel like they understand me and I feel like I don't dread when they come over.

And I think I love them.

We just lost one of them, Andrea.

And I don't know.

Meg was at our house last week.

I have just some people now who I just feel so grateful for and who I want to be in their lives and I want them to be in my life.

And it's kind of a final frontier for me, this friendship thing.

And...

I think that's what I want to do with my 50s is like figure that out.

And can we move on to a different question?

Thank you for that.

Okay.