Glennon Doyle

You and me under the stars, the breeze, marshmallows that are being roasted like on the sticks.

Camping is nature.

God made nature.

Glennon, you love God.

So...

Okay.

Yeah, okay.

Which is important.

Obviously, we're not staying in a tent for your 50th birthday.

Yeah, that's true.

I love that you said sticks and pots and pans and forks because those are not coming from sticks.

I just want to let you know that.

I think that this is such an important and brave thing to say because so many people, they have this kind of self-consciousness about having any kind of self-importance as if this one wild and precious life that we have here is not important or something.

And like...

the impulse for somebody to want to tell their story to the world is claiming, it's like putting a stake in the ground, saying like, I am a person that has a voice and has something to say.

And there's something really important about that, being able to say that not just only to the world, but to yourself.

It's like the self-sovereignty that we've been talking a lot about.

I just think that that's so fascinating.

And I am so glad that you're a writer.

Your writing has helped me know myself better.