Glennon Doyle

Yeah. I mean, when you say it, it makes me think of, oh, because that's what we were told is success. And that is actually, like, in my heart, I understand that they need to be able to be independent. But that's not what I want or think of. Like, I want there to be an interdependence. Like, especially because of the fact that we move so much, I am their community.

Yeah. I mean, when you say it, it makes me think of, oh, because that's what we were told is success. And that is actually, like, in my heart, I understand that they need to be able to be independent. But that's not what I want or think of. Like, I want there to be an interdependence. Like, especially because of the fact that we move so much, I am their community.

Like, we are each other's community. And I don't—it doesn't make sense to me. Like, other cultures and other countries don't have that rigid of a structure. I do think maybe that is a thing that we could let go of as the barometer, complete independence by 21.

Like, we are each other's community. And I don't—it doesn't make sense to me. Like, other cultures and other countries don't have that rigid of a structure. I do think maybe that is a thing that we could let go of as the barometer, complete independence by 21.

Like, we are each other's community. And I don't—it doesn't make sense to me. Like, other cultures and other countries don't have that rigid of a structure. I do think maybe that is a thing that we could let go of as the barometer, complete independence by 21.

That's why I was trying to keep the mediocre before she came. That was my whole job. Seriously, every time they'd be in gymnastics and somebody would say, they're getting really good. Do you want to do the full? I was like, oh, no. Let's go swimming. Like mediocre was the goal. I didn't have to give up my weekend. And then this one came and now they're being recruited.

That's why I was trying to keep the mediocre before she came. That was my whole job. Seriously, every time they'd be in gymnastics and somebody would say, they're getting really good. Do you want to do the full? I was like, oh, no. Let's go swimming. Like mediocre was the goal. I didn't have to give up my weekend. And then this one came and now they're being recruited.

That's why I was trying to keep the mediocre before she came. That was my whole job. Seriously, every time they'd be in gymnastics and somebody would say, they're getting really good. Do you want to do the full? I was like, oh, no. Let's go swimming. Like mediocre was the goal. I didn't have to give up my weekend. And then this one came and now they're being recruited.

It's a good point, though, to figure out for Shira what Shira needs and wants. Because what you're talking about when you say all of that, I'm thinking we do that because we want to still be needed.

It's a good point, though, to figure out for Shira what Shira needs and wants. Because what you're talking about when you say all of that, I'm thinking we do that because we want to still be needed.

It's a good point, though, to figure out for Shira what Shira needs and wants. Because what you're talking about when you say all of that, I'm thinking we do that because we want to still be needed.

We do that because we're like, oh, I'm right now and my children are becoming adults and my role is completely different. It's the hardest part of parenting I've done. Yeah. And there is the tendency to create the codependent thing because you don't know who you are without that.

We do that because we're like, oh, I'm right now and my children are becoming adults and my role is completely different. It's the hardest part of parenting I've done. Yeah. And there is the tendency to create the codependent thing because you don't know who you are without that.

We do that because we're like, oh, I'm right now and my children are becoming adults and my role is completely different. It's the hardest part of parenting I've done. Yeah. And there is the tendency to create the codependent thing because you don't know who you are without that.

And so it could be the most important thing to be creating a life where your kids know you're okay so that your job actually can be to create resilient kids. Yeah. Because some of us get confused and think our job is to keep them needing me. Yeah. Yes.

And so it could be the most important thing to be creating a life where your kids know you're okay so that your job actually can be to create resilient kids. Yeah. Because some of us get confused and think our job is to keep them needing me. Yeah. Yes.

And so it could be the most important thing to be creating a life where your kids know you're okay so that your job actually can be to create resilient kids. Yeah. Because some of us get confused and think our job is to keep them needing me. Yeah. Yes.

And so to build the community that they need, that Shira and her partner need, and to build a career that she feels enlivened by and a life, then her kids can know she's okay and they'll be okay. Yeah.

And so to build the community that they need, that Shira and her partner need, and to build a career that she feels enlivened by and a life, then her kids can know she's okay and they'll be okay. Yeah.

And so to build the community that they need, that Shira and her partner need, and to build a career that she feels enlivened by and a life, then her kids can know she's okay and they'll be okay. Yeah.