Glennon

Well, let me just introduce you formally for maybe the three people who are listening who don't know who you are. Celeste Ng is the number one New York Times bestselling author of Everything I Never Told You and Little Fires Everywhere. Her third novel, Our Missing Hearts, is available now.

Well, let me just introduce you formally for maybe the three people who are listening who don't know who you are. Celeste Ng is the number one New York Times bestselling author of Everything I Never Told You and Little Fires Everywhere. Her third novel, Our Missing Hearts, is available now.

Ng is the recipient of fellowships from the National Endowment for the Arts and the Guggenheim Foundation, and her work has been published in over 30 languages. Celeste, what I really want to talk to you is about some of the themes that are throughout all of your books, because many of the themes that we're wrestling with on We Can Do Hard Things all the time.

Ng is the recipient of fellowships from the National Endowment for the Arts and the Guggenheim Foundation, and her work has been published in over 30 languages. Celeste, what I really want to talk to you is about some of the themes that are throughout all of your books, because many of the themes that we're wrestling with on We Can Do Hard Things all the time.

Ng is the recipient of fellowships from the National Endowment for the Arts and the Guggenheim Foundation, and her work has been published in over 30 languages. Celeste, what I really want to talk to you is about some of the themes that are throughout all of your books, because many of the themes that we're wrestling with on We Can Do Hard Things all the time.

So I thought we could start with a just easy peasy, non-flammable, simple topic, which is whiteness and white women. That's it. Easy. You know, small little, we'll be done in five minutes. Right, we'll just start with a softball. So maybe we could start by talking about Elena from Little Fires Everywhere. Because in that book, and then in the series that was on Hulu,

So I thought we could start with a just easy peasy, non-flammable, simple topic, which is whiteness and white women. That's it. Easy. You know, small little, we'll be done in five minutes. Right, we'll just start with a softball. So maybe we could start by talking about Elena from Little Fires Everywhere. Because in that book, and then in the series that was on Hulu,

So I thought we could start with a just easy peasy, non-flammable, simple topic, which is whiteness and white women. That's it. Easy. You know, small little, we'll be done in five minutes. Right, we'll just start with a softball. So maybe we could start by talking about Elena from Little Fires Everywhere. Because in that book, and then in the series that was on Hulu,

Elena was a character that just sparked, so to speak, lots of conversation. Can you talk to us about how you would describe Elena as a character?

Elena was a character that just sparked, so to speak, lots of conversation. Can you talk to us about how you would describe Elena as a character?

Elena was a character that just sparked, so to speak, lots of conversation. Can you talk to us about how you would describe Elena as a character?

Yeah. And I see myself in Alina. So when I talk about white women, I'm talking about myself. I once described myself as a dormant volcano with lipstick on. And I feel like Alina has this mask and you're waiting for her to explode. And there's just like this lava running inside.

Yeah. And I see myself in Alina. So when I talk about white women, I'm talking about myself. I once described myself as a dormant volcano with lipstick on. And I feel like Alina has this mask and you're waiting for her to explode. And there's just like this lava running inside.

Yeah. And I see myself in Alina. So when I talk about white women, I'm talking about myself. I once described myself as a dormant volcano with lipstick on. And I feel like Alina has this mask and you're waiting for her to explode. And there's just like this lava running inside.

And it feels like it's this bind of white womanhood, which is what you said, is that anger is dangerous when you have power. But where the anger comes from... is the place where you don't really have power. You're pissed off at the people, the man who lives in your house, like Elena's husband, who gets to go out and do all the things.

And it feels like it's this bind of white womanhood, which is what you said, is that anger is dangerous when you have power. But where the anger comes from... is the place where you don't really have power. You're pissed off at the people, the man who lives in your house, like Elena's husband, who gets to go out and do all the things.

And it feels like it's this bind of white womanhood, which is what you said, is that anger is dangerous when you have power. But where the anger comes from... is the place where you don't really have power. You're pissed off at the people, the man who lives in your house, like Elena's husband, who gets to go out and do all the things.

Is that bind something that you are exploring in that character?

Is that bind something that you are exploring in that character?

Is that bind something that you are exploring in that character?