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We Can Do Hard Things is created and hosted by Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle in partnership with Odyssey. Our executive producer is Jenna Wise-Berman, and the show is produced by Lauren LaGrasso, Alison Schott, Dina Kleiner, and Bill Schultz.

We Can Do Hard Things is created and hosted by Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle in partnership with Odyssey. Our executive producer is Jenna Wise-Berman, and the show is produced by Lauren LaGrasso, Alison Schott, Dina Kleiner, and Bill Schultz.

We Can Do Hard Things is created and hosted by Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle in partnership with Odyssey. Our executive producer is Jenna Wise-Berman, and the show is produced by Lauren LaGrasso, Alison Schott, Dina Kleiner, and Bill Schultz.

Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We are here with the incredible Celeste Ng. I've been really, really psyched to have this conversation. Celeste, welcome.

Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We are here with the incredible Celeste Ng. I've been really, really psyched to have this conversation. Celeste, welcome.

Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We are here with the incredible Celeste Ng. I've been really, really psyched to have this conversation. Celeste, welcome.

I have read all of your books, Little Fires Everywhere, and your new book, Our Missing Hearts, which my son and I read together. And I will tell you, Celeste, it just feels like

I have read all of your books, Little Fires Everywhere, and your new book, Our Missing Hearts, which my son and I read together. And I will tell you, Celeste, it just feels like

I have read all of your books, Little Fires Everywhere, and your new book, Our Missing Hearts, which my son and I read together. And I will tell you, Celeste, it just feels like

All of the things that I'm working out in my life or on this podcast or wherever in my little heart, all the things I'm wrestling with, whether it's in my family or in my personal life or in my public self or in activism or in motherhood, you're just always working it out in your latest book, which makes me know you're always wrestling with something like five years before I am, which makes me so grateful to you.

All of the things that I'm working out in my life or on this podcast or wherever in my little heart, all the things I'm wrestling with, whether it's in my family or in my personal life or in my public self or in activism or in motherhood, you're just always working it out in your latest book, which makes me know you're always wrestling with something like five years before I am, which makes me so grateful to you.

All of the things that I'm working out in my life or on this podcast or wherever in my little heart, all the things I'm wrestling with, whether it's in my family or in my personal life or in my public self or in activism or in motherhood, you're just always working it out in your latest book, which makes me know you're always wrestling with something like five years before I am, which makes me so grateful to you.

And each of your books just feels like this, it's not answers, but just beautiful explorations of these questions in the form of a character's life and love and struggles and decisions.

And each of your books just feels like this, it's not answers, but just beautiful explorations of these questions in the form of a character's life and love and struggles and decisions.

And each of your books just feels like this, it's not answers, but just beautiful explorations of these questions in the form of a character's life and love and struggles and decisions.

I saw this teacher say on Twitter the other day that she was so sick of students saying that nonfiction was real and that fiction is fake, that she now says that nonfiction is learning through information and fiction is learning through imagination. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Isn't that great? So your imagination has taught me so much, Celeste. So thank you for your work in the world.

I saw this teacher say on Twitter the other day that she was so sick of students saying that nonfiction was real and that fiction is fake, that she now says that nonfiction is learning through information and fiction is learning through imagination. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Isn't that great? So your imagination has taught me so much, Celeste. So thank you for your work in the world.

I saw this teacher say on Twitter the other day that she was so sick of students saying that nonfiction was real and that fiction is fake, that she now says that nonfiction is learning through information and fiction is learning through imagination. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Isn't that great? So your imagination has taught me so much, Celeste. So thank you for your work in the world.

Well, let me just introduce you formally for maybe the three people who are listening who don't know who you are. Celeste Ng is the number one New York Times bestselling author of Everything I Never Told You and Little Fires Everywhere. Her third novel, Our Missing Hearts, is available now.