Gordon Carrera

Where is Iran's nuclear material after it's been targeted in operations Midnight Hammer and Epic Fury?

And what would it take to get hold of it and end Iran's nuclear program for good?

Well, welcome to The Rest is Classified.

I'm Gordon Carrera.

And I'm David McCloskey.

And David, we're in the second of these two episodes looking at the issue of Iran's nuclear program, how to deal with it, what to do about Iran's highly enriched uranium.

Last time, I guess we set up a little bit about the nuclear program and some of the early options to deal with it, particularly with the historical lens of how Israel in particular had targeted Iraq and Syria's nuclear program, which was different though, wasn't it?

And we talked a bit about that and how they were more discrete programs, basically two reactors which could be taken out, which could be dealt with by a single bombing run effectively.

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And as we talked about a bit last time, it's not so much that the Iranians are racing for a bomb.

We'll come back to that.

But what they're trying to do is bring down what's called the breakout time, which is the time between making a political decision to go for a bomb and actually being able to have one and to kind of reduce that time.

And at one point it had been talked about in years and then it was in months.

But you get to the point where a couple of years ago, 2023, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs was saying it was down to days to have enough fissile material for one bomb.

That is different from actually having a full-out nuclear capability, and it's different from actually being able to have an actual nuclear weapon.

This is worth dwelling on because I think there is a bit of confusion about this, isn't there?