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Gordon Carrera

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

The effort to get a second resolution fails because the French say they won't support it.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Blair, meanwhile, is facing this vote in Parliament on March the 18th.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

This is another big moment for him because the US has woken up to the idea.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Congress has already authorised war back in October, but this is Blair's vote and it's coming on the eve of war.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And there's worry he might have to resign.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And he has a call with President Bush just before the vote in which Bush says, I want regime change in Baghdad, not London.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

This was supposed to be getting rid of Saddam, not Tony Blair, because he's worried that Blair will lose this vote in parliament and have to resign.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And he actually makes a really interesting offer, which is he says, you don't have to take part in the war.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

You do not have to take part in the invasion.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

You can just do the reconstruction afterwards.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I understand you're in a difficult position, but you can back out at this stage.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And I asked Blair about this years later and he confirmed it to me for the first time publicly

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And said he had no regrets about turning that down.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

He said they were offering me the way out because they felt sorry for the politically difficult situation that I was in.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But don't be under any doubt at all.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

If Britain had left the alliance at that point, it would have had a significant impact on the relationship.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I was sure that our alliance depended on us doing this together.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

That's what Tony Blair told me years later about why he turned down that offer from George W. Bush to back out at the last minute.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I think it's a very revealing statement because it tells you that