Gordon Carrera

Yeah.

Who is Joe Fenton?

This is interesting because in contrast to Carlin,

they decide to save, Fenton is someone they don't.

So by the 80s, Joe Fenton is in his 30s, he's married with four kids, he's been working for the IRA, and it will eventually become particularly useful because his job later becomes being an estate agent, so looking after properties.

And that of course gives the IRA access to properties, which they can use for

for interrogations and to hide things.

He's got the keys for all of them.

But what they don't know is he'd been turned years earlier by the Brits.

Now, this is where, of course, it's often murky because there are reports he's pressured to do it by the RUC as he's told he'll be prosecuted unless, this goes back to some of our earlier discussions, unless he agrees to become an informer.

And of course he then becomes incredibly valuable for the RUC because they can then bug the properties that he is allowing the IRA to use.

So he becomes a kind of pretty useful agent at that point.

But he also, it looks like at one point he wants to get out.

He applies for both him and his family to get visas to go to Australia because he just wants to kind of get out.

You get the sense of a guy who's trapped, but the visas are blocked by the authorities.

Operations are getting compromised.

Suspicion at one point falls on him.

In 1985, it looks like he diverts suspicion by pointing to two other people as informers.

And they are then killed by the ISU, which I think is interesting.

But then by the late 80s, 88, 89, the heat is back on him.