Gordon Carrera

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And of course, there's a live show.

september the 4th to 5th so do get your tickets for that but otherwise i guess um with zabiba in the king echoing in our minds and saddam's novels what is good was the last one called get out or something like that maybe that should be i believe it where i was get out get out damn one get out damn one maybe that's on that note let's get out we'll see you next time see you next time

I'm Gordon Carrera, national security journalist.

And I'm David McCloskey, author and former CIA analyst.

We are the hosts of The Rest Is Classified, and in our latest series, we are telling the true story of one of history's biggest intelligence failures, Iraq WMD.

This wasn't a simple lie.

It was something far more complicated, far more interesting.

and far more dangerous.

In this series, we go deep inside the CIA and MI6, go into the rooms where decisions were made, and look at the sources who fabricated the intelligence that took us to war.

Plus, in a declassified club exclusive, we are joined by three people who are at the heart of the decision to go to war.

Former head of MI6, Richard Dearlove, Tony Blair's former communications director, Alistair Campbell, and former acting head of the CIA, Michael Morrell.

Thank you so much for those.

We are going to start with the UK, but we will get to the US.

Don't worry.

I should say, we're coming back to the CIA.

Yeah, the CIA won't get away with this one.

But it is interesting, isn't it?

Because I think you're absolutely right that what's so interesting is it's both intelligence services, but it's also, as we'll see in the next couple of episodes as well, the way in which the US and UK interact, which is really, really interesting in this

business is the same, especially when you're building or growing a team.