Gordon Carrera
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Let's start with the UK.
So the idea of making a public case actually first arrives back in April 2002, when the chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, John Scarlett, former MI6 officer, meets with someone called Alastair Campbell.
I don't know what happened to him, who was Tony Blair's director of communications.
He's faded into obscurity in the two plus decades since.
Yeah.
Everyone's got a podcast, David.
Don't say that.
We've got him on our bonus episode.
He is far from it.
He's our colleague now.
But he does play a really important role in this story because he's director of communications at Number 10.
And they are thinking, you know, quite explicitly, how are we going to set the scene communications wise to confront Iraq?
And they start thinking about this as far back as April.
And it's in conjunction with this thing called the Joint Intelligence Committee, the JIC.
Yeah, it's a good point because CIA has both collection and analysis.
MI6 is just collection.
Then there is a group underneath the JIC called the assessment staff who do a lot of the analysis and the JIC sits at the top of it.