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Gordon Carrera

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And it, for State Knife, will be the most significant because Sandy Lynch is taken to a house in West Belfast.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

It's the same house that Joe Fenton has just been held in earlier.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

He's pushed down onto a bed as he hears the words IRA security.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

He's blindfolded, placed in a chair facing a wall.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

He doesn't see who does it initially, but Scappaticci then checks him, this I find interesting, with a bug detector.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

So they have some kind of bug detector they've got hold of, which I guess is looking for radio frequencies being emitted.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And Lynch hears a voice, because he's blindfolded, but he hears a voice.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And he recognizes it as Scappaticci saying the device is going haywire.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

But the interrogation continues, which I kind of think is a little bit odd in that detail.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And Scappaticci tells him...

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

He's going to be hanging upside down in a cow shed until he confesses.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Now, there are two teams doing the interrogation and they take turns.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

But Scappaticci all this time is keeping his handlers up to speed about events in the coming hours.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And here's what's interesting.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Lynch is going to be saved.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

But the reason is because he's effectively being used as bait in a trap to lure in senior Republicans because the Republicans have decided that they want Lynch to do a press conference in which he admits to having been forced to be an informer.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

and then making allegations linking the security forces with this policy of shoot to kill.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

So they've decided they can kind of, rather than just kill Lynch, they can use him for publicity.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And what that means is that senior Republicans are going to kind of, from the political side of the movement,

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

are going to come in to talk to him about that.