Gordon Carrera
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You know, which the assumption, I don't think it is very conspiratorial to think the FRU basically burned his office down and tried to destroy the evidence.
So this inquiry is running and getting pretty hot.
And, you know, Stevens is not onto Scappaticci, but Scappaticci is worried that he will be unearthed as part of this inquiry.
That, you know, stuff is coming out about what FRU and what British military intelligence was being done.
And so at one point, and we'll come back to this, a senior British military figure actually meets Scappaticci to reassure him that he's going to be okay, his name's going to come out, and that's going to prove to be another problem.
Meanwhile, outside of Scappaticci's small world, you've got a ceasefire, 94 breaks down briefly because both sides are realizing they're reaching a stalemate.
Eventually, in 1998, you're going to get the Good Friday Agreement.
Also, that means Scappaticci is less valuable and less needed.
And so the army are thinking, well, maybe we'll try and get him out of Northern Ireland now and kind of get him away from everything.
And they discuss his relocation with something called MI5 Central Resettlement Unit.
This is from the official report to State Knife, which the CRU, which I don't know much about, but they're looking at the options about how to
get rid of him and you know also kind of protect him from any legal repercussions and investigations which which might come i mean there's even talk about the army about staging a farewell dinner you know to say goodbye to him as he goes although it's not clear whether this actually took place but kind of bizarre thing to do but i guess it shows his importance that doesn't seem that bizarre to me yeah doesn't it i mean i i guess not i'm just thinking of the context of
But Scab?
Yeah, you're not talking about a kind of Gordievsky or a Tolkachev kind of figure, are you?
You're talking about, I don't know, it's the equivalent of having someone you've run inside of ISIS or Al-Qaeda.
I mean, maybe, maybe if they're the right kind of person.
That's probably a bit of a stretch, you're right.
They do relocate him briefly, but then he just on his own goes back to Northern Ireland without telling them.
And so, I mean, I love this fact.
It was only due to the fact he was seen driving a vehicle in Belfast that MI5 CRU became aware he'd left Great Britain and the mainland.