Gordon Carrera

Yeah, exactly.

There's a real distinction, I think, between those two.

The verbiage can overlap, but they're different things.

What is the BBC, Gordon, other than a massive gun running operation for British intelligence?

This was back before Alistair looked like Evgeny Prigozhin, right?

Yeah.

No, no.

He was not... He was merely...

He seemed, I would say, agitated by the claim that he bore any resemblance to warlord slash chef Yevgeny Prokoshin.

Although, hold on, Gord, because I may be missing this from Texas because our intrepid producer, Becky, has noted in the chat that Alistair agreed eventually.

Yeah.

There was a little bit of resemblance.

He bore some resemblance, so we wore him down.

That's why Alistair had to do the rest of his politics, right?

Because he lost his pension.

His daily pension was gone.

I'm going to get sued.

I'm going to get sued by Alistair.

Yeah, but actually the video we're looking at now, for those watching, this is the only part of your house, Gordon, that's not decorated in 70s Playboy Baroque.

Yeah.