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Gordon Carrera

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

So we'd left these American diplomats on the run, shuttling from safe house to safe house, until they finally turned to their rescuers, the Canadians.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

The Canadians.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

Because I think Ken Taylor, it is worth just saying, I think...

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

We'll come to who the CIA say is the hero of this story.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

I think Ken Taylor is the hero of the story, the Canadian ambassador.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

I think he is such an interesting character.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

He's been only in Tehran for a few years.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

He's relatively young.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

See this picture of him?

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

He's got this kind of crazy curly hair, kind of mop of hair and kind of big glasses.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

And he'd been sent over as a trade rep, effectively.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

He had a background in trade to sell stuff to the Iranians.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

And now suddenly he's being plunged into a high political drama.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

And he is the one who's going to have to guide this process over the coming, as we'll see, months and to oversee it.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

And he's going to do some really, really interesting things.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

So I just think it's worth introducing Ken Taylor.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

And you're right, the fact he agrees on the spot is also really interesting because he basically says, let's do this.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

And he does the smart thing, which some people in bureaucracies understand, which is that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

Because once he's basically said, yes, we're going to do this, he then sends a flash cable to Ottawa.

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160. Argo: The Secret Iranian Hostage Crisis (Ep 1)

And this actually has to go first to the foreign minister, who then has to grab the prime minister who's in parliament and say, is this OK?