Gordon Carrera

And Scappaticcia is one of those involved in that early period with more and more shootings and the British government by 1971 struggling to control things.

Yeah, they could just be, yeah, they just picked up hundreds of them.

And included amongst those picked up in that wave in August 1971 is Freddy Scappaticci.

So at 4.30am on the 9th of August 1971, his front door is kicked in by British soldiers.

They take him away, give them supposedly a good kicking as they do.

He's one of these hundreds locked up.

Now, he's not one of a smaller group who are subject to what's called euphemistically deep interrogation.

CIA will be aware of these euphemisms, which involves five techniques like hooding and sleep deprivation and had been developed by the British Army during counterinsurgency.

So he's not subject to that.

And he's held an internment camp called Long Kesh, which is a former RAF based near Lisbon, about 10 miles from Belfast.

Now, meanwhile, the act of internment leads to an escalation in violence, which aids IRA recruitment.

And Scappaticci is going to be interned for a considerable period, for crucial years,

As the conflict escalates, so 30th of January 1972, soldiers from the 1st Battalion, the Parachute Regiment of the British Army, open fire on a crowd of people marching against internment in the city of Derry.

14 people end up dying from that, and that becomes known as Bloody Sunday.

And 1972 is the bloodiest year of the conflict.

472 people killed, 321 civilians, 100 soldiers, 16 members of the RUC.

And you see the IRA also moving from shootouts to smaller scale operations in this period.

And you see them moving towards bombings, including bombings on the mainland in England to try and put pressure on the government to withdraw.

So you see an activity in England, which I think leaves 45 people dead by the end of 1974.

And Scappaticci himself gets released in early 1974, goes back to the RA, but then in August 74, he gets banged up again for another period of internment.