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Gordon Carrera

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

So you can see him almost kind of linking himself to those popular culture tropes of the guy who the CIA are going to come after and they're going to use the triads, the kind of local organized crime in Hong Kong and to go after him. I mean, it's fascinating, I think.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

It's only one part of a bigger video in which he's talking about the 12 minute video that goes on The Guardian, but it's quite a telling bit, isn't it?

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

It's only one part of a bigger video in which he's talking about the 12 minute video that goes on The Guardian, but it's quite a telling bit, isn't it?

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

It's only one part of a bigger video in which he's talking about the 12 minute video that goes on The Guardian, but it's quite a telling bit, isn't it?

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

Although, dare I say, occasionally the CIA has been known to undertake certain acts of rendition from certain countries, even friendly countries like Italy. So it's not entirely implausible. But not against its own citizens. Not against an NSA contractor. Who's also just gone public.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

Although, dare I say, occasionally the CIA has been known to undertake certain acts of rendition from certain countries, even friendly countries like Italy. So it's not entirely implausible. But not against its own citizens. Not against an NSA contractor. Who's also just gone public.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

Although, dare I say, occasionally the CIA has been known to undertake certain acts of rendition from certain countries, even friendly countries like Italy. So it's not entirely implausible. But not against its own citizens. Not against an NSA contractor. Who's also just gone public.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

He's the hero in his own video game. He's the hero in his own video game. Precisely. Yeah. I mean, and what's fascinating here is he's going public. He's revealing himself to the world. He's saying this, that I could be hunted down by the triads or by the CIA. And yet he hasn't planned an exit strategy yet. And I think it's really kind of telling and odd that he hasn't.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

He's the hero in his own video game. He's the hero in his own video game. Precisely. Yeah. I mean, and what's fascinating here is he's going public. He's revealing himself to the world. He's saying this, that I could be hunted down by the triads or by the CIA. And yet he hasn't planned an exit strategy yet. And I think it's really kind of telling and odd that he hasn't.

The Rest Is Classified
46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

He's the hero in his own video game. He's the hero in his own video game. Precisely. Yeah. I mean, and what's fascinating here is he's going public. He's revealing himself to the world. He's saying this, that I could be hunted down by the triads or by the CIA. And yet he hasn't planned an exit strategy yet. And I think it's really kind of telling and odd that he hasn't.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And I mean, one option would have been for him to go back to say, here I am and I'm going back to the US and I'm going to go on trial and I'm going to make my case. Now, his argument is that he would have faced a kind of sham trial. You know, he might not have been able to have a jury trial in which he gave a defence and because of the Espionage Act, he wouldn't be able to make his case.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And I mean, one option would have been for him to go back to say, here I am and I'm going back to the US and I'm going to go on trial and I'm going to make my case. Now, his argument is that he would have faced a kind of sham trial. You know, he might not have been able to have a jury trial in which he gave a defence and because of the Espionage Act, he wouldn't be able to make his case.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And I mean, one option would have been for him to go back to say, here I am and I'm going back to the US and I'm going to go on trial and I'm going to make my case. Now, his argument is that he would have faced a kind of sham trial. You know, he might not have been able to have a jury trial in which he gave a defence and because of the Espionage Act, he wouldn't be able to make his case.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And yet he still doesn't really know what he's going to do. And here now he's gone public in Hong Kong. And in the video, they don't say he's at the Mirror Hotel, but it's clear it's Hong Kong. And so now it becomes clear that people are going to track him down. Hong Kong press and the world's press are descending on Hong Kong to find this whistleblower.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And yet he still doesn't really know what he's going to do. And here now he's gone public in Hong Kong. And in the video, they don't say he's at the Mirror Hotel, but it's clear it's Hong Kong. And so now it becomes clear that people are going to track him down. Hong Kong press and the world's press are descending on Hong Kong to find this whistleblower.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And yet he still doesn't really know what he's going to do. And here now he's gone public in Hong Kong. And in the video, they don't say he's at the Mirror Hotel, but it's clear it's Hong Kong. And so now it becomes clear that people are going to track him down. Hong Kong press and the world's press are descending on Hong Kong to find this whistleblower.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And they're looking at the kind of, as you do now with kind of open source intelligence, looking at the pictures of him in his hotel room and going, that looks like the Mirror Hotel, you know. You refer to him by the W word, Gordon. Yeah. Whistleblower. Leaker. So he realizes he's got to run the next day. He's got to go on the move.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And they're looking at the kind of, as you do now with kind of open source intelligence, looking at the pictures of him in his hotel room and going, that looks like the Mirror Hotel, you know. You refer to him by the W word, Gordon. Yeah. Whistleblower. Leaker. So he realizes he's got to run the next day. He's got to go on the move.

The Rest Is Classified
46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

And they're looking at the kind of, as you do now with kind of open source intelligence, looking at the pictures of him in his hotel room and going, that looks like the Mirror Hotel, you know. You refer to him by the W word, Gordon. Yeah. Whistleblower. Leaker. So he realizes he's got to run the next day. He's got to go on the move.

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46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

friendly, would accept him. Yeah. And Iceland seemed to have been his first choice. I mean, it's interesting because I think China does become an option at one point. So the next day after the video, he's bundled out of the Mira Hotel. I mean, you see a bit of it in the film. Lawyers in Hong Kong help him and help hide him.