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Gordon Carrera

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

So he's in and out a lot during this phase.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

Yeah, this is where the intelligence side of this conflict really kicks in, because the army realize that they're struggling to deal with the bloodshed.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

They respond partly by using some of the counterinsurgency tactics they've learned overseas.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

For instance, fighting in the Maobao uprising in Kenya, an uprising against British rule.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

That's part of the interrogation techniques, but also some of the attempts to create informers and recruit informers within communities.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

They're importing some of those techniques and the army also takes the decision that they want to develop their own intelligence capabilities rather than rely on the RUC, the Royal Ulster Constabulary, the local police.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

One of the reasons is the RUC, as I said, is perceived as biased towards the Protestant population.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

It's kind of disproportionately Protestant and the army also think that many individuals who might provide intelligence

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

would not deal with the RAUC as a result.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

So the army are gonna kind of develop their own capability.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

They start with these things called covert bomb squads, whose remit was to collect and act upon intelligence related to bombings, hence the name.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

Later that's then remodeled into something called the military reaction force.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

in 1971.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

Now this is quite a controversial unit.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

MRF military reaction force members were deployed in disguise at vehicle checkpoints trying to identify potential members of groups.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

They often operated in plain clothes using unmarked vehicles.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

They used front companies, so a mobile laundry service and a massage parlour.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

to try and gather intelligence.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

Famously, there's some incidents, and I think these are recounted in the TV drama, Say Nothing, which we'll talk about a little later on based on Patrick Braddon Keefe's book and who we're going to be talking to in a bonus.

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149. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: The Truth Behind Stakeknife (Ep 1)

But there's a scene there which is dramatized where the IRA then get intelligence about one of these laundry service vans and they shoot up the laundry van.