Gordon Carrera

friendly, would accept him. Yeah. And Iceland seemed to have been his first choice. I mean, it's interesting because I think China does become an option at one point. So the next day after the video, he's bundled out of the Mira Hotel. I mean, you see a bit of it in the film. Lawyers in Hong Kong help him and help hide him.

friendly, would accept him. Yeah. And Iceland seemed to have been his first choice. I mean, it's interesting because I think China does become an option at one point. So the next day after the video, he's bundled out of the Mira Hotel. I mean, you see a bit of it in the film. Lawyers in Hong Kong help him and help hide him.

They take him to a kind of cramped apartment in a poor neighborhood filled with refugees rather than the kind of five-star hotels he's been in. And he kind of wears a hat and sunglasses. He's moving from place to place with people who are trying to escape deportation. There is a point here where I think he does consider going over the border into China.

They take him to a kind of cramped apartment in a poor neighborhood filled with refugees rather than the kind of five-star hotels he's been in. And he kind of wears a hat and sunglasses. He's moving from place to place with people who are trying to escape deportation. There is a point here where I think he does consider going over the border into China.

They take him to a kind of cramped apartment in a poor neighborhood filled with refugees rather than the kind of five-star hotels he's been in. And he kind of wears a hat and sunglasses. He's moving from place to place with people who are trying to escape deportation. There is a point here where I think he does consider going over the border into China.

And it's interesting because he does an interview with a local paper in Hong Kong revealing that the NSA had hacked Chinese mobile phone companies and a university.

And it's interesting because he does an interview with a local paper in Hong Kong revealing that the NSA had hacked Chinese mobile phone companies and a university.

And it's interesting because he does an interview with a local paper in Hong Kong revealing that the NSA had hacked Chinese mobile phone companies and a university.

Now this is particularly awkward at this time because almost literally at this moment President Obama is meeting the leader of China for a big summit at Sunnylands in America and the argument was the US was going to press China about its hacking of American companies and stealing of intellectual property and at this moment Edward Snowden turns up and goes, actually, we're hacking you.

Now this is particularly awkward at this time because almost literally at this moment President Obama is meeting the leader of China for a big summit at Sunnylands in America and the argument was the US was going to press China about its hacking of American companies and stealing of intellectual property and at this moment Edward Snowden turns up and goes, actually, we're hacking you.

Now this is particularly awkward at this time because almost literally at this moment President Obama is meeting the leader of China for a big summit at Sunnylands in America and the argument was the US was going to press China about its hacking of American companies and stealing of intellectual property and at this moment Edward Snowden turns up and goes, actually, we're hacking you.

And we're carrying out cyber espionage on China. And it is very awkward for the United States and for President Obama at that summit. But also, to me, it suggests that Snowden is trying to maybe buy some support in China in order to get out and get over there, perhaps, as one option.

And we're carrying out cyber espionage on China. And it is very awkward for the United States and for President Obama at that summit. But also, to me, it suggests that Snowden is trying to maybe buy some support in China in order to get out and get over there, perhaps, as one option.

And we're carrying out cyber espionage on China. And it is very awkward for the United States and for President Obama at that summit. But also, to me, it suggests that Snowden is trying to maybe buy some support in China in order to get out and get over there, perhaps, as one option.

No, and his argument is, and it's interesting, I think we'll come back to it, but his argument is there's an element of US hypocrisy in complaining about others spying on America when it's spying on them and that it's carrying out mass surveillance of Chinese citizens and collecting their bulk data. Now, I'll give you that's what spy agencies do, but you're right.

No, and his argument is, and it's interesting, I think we'll come back to it, but his argument is there's an element of US hypocrisy in complaining about others spying on America when it's spying on them and that it's carrying out mass surveillance of Chinese citizens and collecting their bulk data. Now, I'll give you that's what spy agencies do, but you're right.

No, and his argument is, and it's interesting, I think we'll come back to it, but his argument is there's an element of US hypocrisy in complaining about others spying on America when it's spying on them and that it's carrying out mass surveillance of Chinese citizens and collecting their bulk data. Now, I'll give you that's what spy agencies do, but you're right.

There is a kind of different tenor to some of these articles. But what's interesting is if he is trying to buy support to get into China, perhaps- Doesn't work. Doesn't work. They don't want him. It's really interesting because, you know, something which I think has only become clearer now is that the Chinese at that point know that this could become a big diplomatic row with the US.

There is a kind of different tenor to some of these articles. But what's interesting is if he is trying to buy support to get into China, perhaps- Doesn't work. Doesn't work. They don't want him. It's really interesting because, you know, something which I think has only become clearer now is that the Chinese at that point know that this could become a big diplomatic row with the US.

There is a kind of different tenor to some of these articles. But what's interesting is if he is trying to buy support to get into China, perhaps- Doesn't work. Doesn't work. They don't want him. It's really interesting because, you know, something which I think has only become clearer now is that the Chinese at that point know that this could become a big diplomatic row with the US.