Gordon Carrera

Yeah, and again, with other kind of intelligence stories we've done, that would be surprising, isn't it?

Because normally they've got to have covert communications.

But again, it goes back to that point that this is the British state running agents on their home turf.

So you have control over the environment, including the phone network.

So there's no danger of the state or the security forces...

being able to get phone records or to tap phones because you are the state and the security force running the network and running the phone.

So in a sense, you have that little bit more control over the things like phones without needing kind of covert communications, I guess.

Yeah, he just needs to find a call, yeah.

So then there's a special intelligence database known as BogRat3970.

That's your Gmail address, right, Gordon?

Mugrat3970.

You're getting it away, David.

Although, interesting enough, there is this intelligence database, all physical trace of which has since disappeared, which is a little bit mysterious.

One of the many mysterious disappearances in the steak knife story, we should say.

Do we know what happened?

No.

Well, it's disappeared.

And I think we'll come back to that towards the end, where there is a tradition of disappearances, even fires, at buildings where evidence is being kept, which is just odd coincidence.

But...

So State Knife's intelligence is going to get passed to the RUC special branch and MI5 on a near daily basis in forms of kind of source reports with its code name on it.