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Gordon Carrera

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So, I mean, we'll be hearing from him directly, but he still thinks that there was material which ends up getting hidden and he will say moved out of the country.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

by Saddam's regime.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Fair to say that's not a universally accepted view within the intelligence community.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Yeah, I think we should come to that.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Because I think what it's based on is, as the war approaches, they see some trucks moving over the border into Syria from Iraq.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But that doesn't mean the trucks had WMD, because I think the idea is people are moving other stuff.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

If you're a senior Iraqi official, you're probably moving your money and your possessions out over the border, aren't you?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So I think there is a suspicion about that and even some reporting.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Yeah.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So there's all this tension.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

The UK has got a source inside Saddam's special security organization talking about how they're going to stymie the inspectors and keep them away from things.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But that's actually standard behavior because as we know, the special security organization

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

thinks the inspectors are spies gathering intelligence for war and they're trying to protect Saddam.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So that's the problem.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So by the time you get to the end of January, Tony Blair is in real trouble.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Because he'd been hoping that either there might be a coup to topple Saddam.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Sounds familiar from recent events in Iran, doesn't it?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Always easy.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Just count on the coup.