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Gordon Carrera

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

No, he hasn't got his coup.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Or he thinks maybe Saddam will just give up all his weapons and therefore we might not need a war.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Because Saddam will just decide to disarm, which of course, as we know, he can't do because he hasn't got them.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And then Blair is thinking, well, the other option is the UN is going to find stuff, and that will help me justify the war that's coming, or he's going to block the inspectors, and that will help me justify the war, and it's not happening.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And the inspectors are saying, well, we need a few more months to come to the answers.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Blix and Washington are starting to clash.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I mean, Blix thinks, and I think rightly, that Washington is bugging him.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So he starts meeting his team in a restaurant because he doesn't want to be spied on by Washington.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And Cheney himself, I think, and Cheney's team are saying, if you don't find stuff, if you're not aggressive enough to Blix and ElBaradei, we will discredit you.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So I think there's a kind of growing tension here over why nothing's been found.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But Blix also believes there are weapons, doesn't he?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Yeah, he does at the time.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And I think it's one of the interesting points is that I think he probably he thought there was probably something there.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

He's also a bit confused as to why they haven't found stuff.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But they think, well, we need months.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

We need time.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And this is the problem, because Blair wants more time.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

The inspectors want more time.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Washington, the military timetable is now dictating events and they do not want more time.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So Blair goes to Washington on January 31st to make the case to Bush at a kind of face-to-face meeting to let this UN process play out, maybe six months.