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Gordon Carrera

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Yeah.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So there's all this tension.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

The UK has got a source inside Saddam's special security organization talking about how they're going to stymie the inspectors and keep them away from things.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But that's actually standard behavior because as we know, the special security organization

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

thinks the inspectors are spies gathering intelligence for war and they're trying to protect Saddam.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So that's the problem.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So by the time you get to the end of January, Tony Blair is in real trouble.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Because he'd been hoping that either there might be a coup to topple Saddam.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Sounds familiar from recent events in Iran, doesn't it?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Always easy.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Just count on the coup.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

No, he hasn't got his coup.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Or he thinks maybe Saddam will just give up all his weapons and therefore we might not need a war.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Because Saddam will just decide to disarm, which of course, as we know, he can't do because he hasn't got them.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And then Blair is thinking, well, the other option is the UN is going to find stuff, and that will help me justify the war that's coming, or he's going to block the inspectors, and that will help me justify the war, and it's not happening.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And the inspectors are saying, well, we need a few more months to come to the answers.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Blix and Washington are starting to clash.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I mean, Blix thinks, and I think rightly, that Washington is bugging him.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So he starts meeting his team in a restaurant because he doesn't want to be spied on by Washington.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And Cheney himself, I think, and Cheney's team are saying, if you don't find stuff, if you're not aggressive enough to Blix and ElBaradei, we will discredit you.