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Gordon Carrera

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And Blair looks at him and says, Richard, my fate is in your hands.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I mean, that is quite a statement from a prime minister to an intelligence chief, isn't it?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I mean, it's because he knows that he's put his faith, trust, his fate, his future in the hands of the intelligence, which he has been told, assured, is there.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I think that's right.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

It matters less than it does for Blair, who has really staked everything on that WMD.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And so the inspector's drawing a blank.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

MI6 is saying, well, it just shows how devious Saddam is and how incompetent the inspectors are.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So they start kind of

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

saying, you know, these inspectors are terrible.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

They don't, you know, they're announcing where they're going.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And it is worth saying that Dearlove continues to blame the inspectors and believe things were there.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So, I mean, we'll be hearing from him directly, but he still thinks that there was material which ends up getting hidden and he will say moved out of the country.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

by Saddam's regime.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Fair to say that's not a universally accepted view within the intelligence community.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Yeah, I think we should come to that.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Because I think what it's based on is, as the war approaches, they see some trucks moving over the border into Syria from Iraq.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But that doesn't mean the trucks had WMD, because I think the idea is people are moving other stuff.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

If you're a senior Iraqi official, you're probably moving your money and your possessions out over the border, aren't you?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So I think there is a suspicion about that and even some reporting.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But