Gordon Corera

It's an interesting point to look at here is, is he a whistleblower? Because I think that is how... he is framed very much by his supporters, that he is someone who has seen the bad stuff in the secret state and he wants to expose it and therefore he's a whistleblower. Being a whistleblower is obviously something which also gets you certain kinds of protections.

You know, it's very different from being, if you like, a spy or someone who's stealing stuff or out to damage an institution.

You know, it's very different from being, if you like, a spy or someone who's stealing stuff or out to damage an institution.

You know, it's very different from being, if you like, a spy or someone who's stealing stuff or out to damage an institution.

Yeah, it is a matter of interpretation. But I think ideology does play a role. You are right that there may be triggers to do with what happens in the workplace. And I think he's kind of his views are dismissed by a supervisor because he's a contractor. Actually, he's kind of told, you know, come back as staff if you want to talk to me like that. And he's kind of flamed out in front of colleagues.

Yeah, it is a matter of interpretation. But I think ideology does play a role. You are right that there may be triggers to do with what happens in the workplace. And I think he's kind of his views are dismissed by a supervisor because he's a contractor. Actually, he's kind of told, you know, come back as staff if you want to talk to me like that. And he's kind of flamed out in front of colleagues.

Yeah, it is a matter of interpretation. But I think ideology does play a role. You are right that there may be triggers to do with what happens in the workplace. And I think he's kind of his views are dismissed by a supervisor because he's a contractor. Actually, he's kind of told, you know, come back as staff if you want to talk to me like that. And he's kind of flamed out in front of colleagues.

I accept that there is grievance there. And that grievance is really powerful in the espionage business too. Yeah, but I also think there's ideology there. He's decided he wants to do something and he's going to start collecting files. And we'll look in a minute at how he does that. He doesn't go through, if you like, whistleblower channels because there are supposed to be channels.

I accept that there is grievance there. And that grievance is really powerful in the espionage business too. Yeah, but I also think there's ideology there. He's decided he wants to do something and he's going to start collecting files. And we'll look in a minute at how he does that. He doesn't go through, if you like, whistleblower channels because there are supposed to be channels.

I accept that there is grievance there. And that grievance is really powerful in the espionage business too. Yeah, but I also think there's ideology there. He's decided he wants to do something and he's going to start collecting files. And we'll look in a minute at how he does that. He doesn't go through, if you like, whistleblower channels because there are supposed to be channels.

Now, some people have said, well, you know, there's no evidence he did that and he should have done that. I think that's half true, but I also, in Snowden's defence, will say, you know, the evidence was people who had tried to blow the whistle about some of these programmes had been shut up.

Now, some people have said, well, you know, there's no evidence he did that and he should have done that. I think that's half true, but I also, in Snowden's defence, will say, you know, the evidence was people who had tried to blow the whistle about some of these programmes had been shut up.

Now, some people have said, well, you know, there's no evidence he did that and he should have done that. I think that's half true, but I also, in Snowden's defence, will say, you know, the evidence was people who had tried to blow the whistle about some of these programmes had been shut up.

I mean, you know, there were cases of people like Thomas Drake who'd been in the NSA and had talked about some of this attitude, and he'd basically tried to blow the whistle internally. It had failed. He'd gone out and gone to a newspaper and told them about it, and then he got arrested. And so it is true that Snowden doesn't go through, if you like, the formal channels to go...

I mean, you know, there were cases of people like Thomas Drake who'd been in the NSA and had talked about some of this attitude, and he'd basically tried to blow the whistle internally. It had failed. He'd gone out and gone to a newspaper and told them about it, and then he got arrested. And so it is true that Snowden doesn't go through, if you like, the formal channels to go...

I mean, you know, there were cases of people like Thomas Drake who'd been in the NSA and had talked about some of this attitude, and he'd basically tried to blow the whistle internally. It had failed. He'd gone out and gone to a newspaper and told them about it, and then he got arrested. And so it is true that Snowden doesn't go through, if you like, the formal channels to go...

put your hand up and go, I think these programs are wrong. But I don't think he feels he would have been listened to or that there was that option to actually have any difference or make any difference about these programs by going through the formal channels.

put your hand up and go, I think these programs are wrong. But I don't think he feels he would have been listened to or that there was that option to actually have any difference or make any difference about these programs by going through the formal channels.

put your hand up and go, I think these programs are wrong. But I don't think he feels he would have been listened to or that there was that option to actually have any difference or make any difference about these programs by going through the formal channels.

The Inspector General.