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Gordon Corera

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

It happens all the time. I mean, I literally have one a few weeks ago where someone emailed me. I won't say what it was. Their email address was clearly a kind of made up name and was like, do you have time to meet? I've got something to talk to you about. I'm glad you finally got my message. Yeah. I've been trying to contact you for weeks. Yeah. There are other ways, David.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

It happens all the time. I mean, I literally have one a few weeks ago where someone emailed me. I won't say what it was. Their email address was clearly a kind of made up name and was like, do you have time to meet? I've got something to talk to you about. I'm glad you finally got my message. Yeah. I've been trying to contact you for weeks. Yeah. There are other ways, David.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

But you do get a lot of these messages, actually. And I've had some which have been, as you would politely put it, whack jobs, where people have said, you know, I've been tortured by the British state. And you end up talking to them and you realise... No. Somebody's tortured you, but it probably wasn't the British state. And then you get other ones where you go meet up with me.

The Rest Is Classified
45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

But you do get a lot of these messages, actually. And I've had some which have been, as you would politely put it, whack jobs, where people have said, you know, I've been tortured by the British state. And you end up talking to them and you realise... No. Somebody's tortured you, but it probably wasn't the British state. And then you get other ones where you go meet up with me.

The Rest Is Classified
45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

But you do get a lot of these messages, actually. And I've had some which have been, as you would politely put it, whack jobs, where people have said, you know, I've been tortured by the British state. And you end up talking to them and you realise... No. Somebody's tortured you, but it probably wasn't the British state. And then you get other ones where you go meet up with me.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

I've got some secret documents to hand over. And I remember once doing the classic thing, going into a kind of hotel, meeting someone who claimed to have secret documents, I think in that case, relating to the Iran nuclear program. And you're like, this looks exciting. Anyway, you went back and looked at them and kind of shared them with some experts and realised that actually they were fake.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

I've got some secret documents to hand over. And I remember once doing the classic thing, going into a kind of hotel, meeting someone who claimed to have secret documents, I think in that case, relating to the Iran nuclear program. And you're like, this looks exciting. Anyway, you went back and looked at them and kind of shared them with some experts and realised that actually they were fake.

The Rest Is Classified
45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

I've got some secret documents to hand over. And I remember once doing the classic thing, going into a kind of hotel, meeting someone who claimed to have secret documents, I think in that case, relating to the Iran nuclear program. And you're like, this looks exciting. Anyway, you went back and looked at them and kind of shared them with some experts and realised that actually they were fake.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

And it was the person who'd handed them to me was trying to implicate someone else as having supplied something to the Iranian nuclear programme. It was a kind of, you know, set up where they were hoping you'd report on it and this person would get into trouble about it. And then occasionally maybe you get the real deal and you get a kind of source who does provide stuff. So it definitely happens.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

And it was the person who'd handed them to me was trying to implicate someone else as having supplied something to the Iranian nuclear programme. It was a kind of, you know, set up where they were hoping you'd report on it and this person would get into trouble about it. And then occasionally maybe you get the real deal and you get a kind of source who does provide stuff. So it definitely happens.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

And it was the person who'd handed them to me was trying to implicate someone else as having supplied something to the Iranian nuclear programme. It was a kind of, you know, set up where they were hoping you'd report on it and this person would get into trouble about it. And then occasionally maybe you get the real deal and you get a kind of source who does provide stuff. So it definitely happens.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

And it is definitely really hard to know which one's to take seriously. So we've pushed on him, but you can understand Greenwald's perspective here. I can absolutely understand it.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

And it is definitely really hard to know which one's to take seriously. So we've pushed on him, but you can understand Greenwald's perspective here. I can absolutely understand it.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

And it is definitely really hard to know which one's to take seriously. So we've pushed on him, but you can understand Greenwald's perspective here. I can absolutely understand it.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

But it's funny because Snowden himself says, here am I, ready to risk my liberty, perhaps even my life, to hand this guy thousands of top secret documents from the nation's most secretive agency, a leak that will produce dozens if not hundreds of journalistic scoops, and he can't even be bothered to install an encryption program. So at this point, Snowden tries someone else.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

But it's funny because Snowden himself says, here am I, ready to risk my liberty, perhaps even my life, to hand this guy thousands of top secret documents from the nation's most secretive agency, a leak that will produce dozens if not hundreds of journalistic scoops, and he can't even be bothered to install an encryption program. So at this point, Snowden tries someone else.

The Rest Is Classified
45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

But it's funny because Snowden himself says, here am I, ready to risk my liberty, perhaps even my life, to hand this guy thousands of top secret documents from the nation's most secretive agency, a leak that will produce dozens if not hundreds of journalistic scoops, and he can't even be bothered to install an encryption program. So at this point, Snowden tries someone else.

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45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

So he now tries a filmmaker, Laura Poitras. She's another very interesting character who has been making a series of films about, if you like, the war on terror, about US policy post 9-11, including Iraq. And the reason I think he picks her is because as a result of making those films, she's finding herself getting stopped at airports. She's clearly on some kind of watch list.

The Rest Is Classified
45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

So he now tries a filmmaker, Laura Poitras. She's another very interesting character who has been making a series of films about, if you like, the war on terror, about US policy post 9-11, including Iraq. And the reason I think he picks her is because as a result of making those films, she's finding herself getting stopped at airports. She's clearly on some kind of watch list.

The Rest Is Classified
45. The Leak That Changed The World: America Exposed (Ep 3)

So he now tries a filmmaker, Laura Poitras. She's another very interesting character who has been making a series of films about, if you like, the war on terror, about US policy post 9-11, including Iraq. And the reason I think he picks her is because as a result of making those films, she's finding herself getting stopped at airports. She's clearly on some kind of watch list.