Gordon Flett
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People might not have the ideal nuclear family origins that they want, but they've met somebody who's changed their life and becomes their partner. And this is the thing about mattering is that I always say that it comes wrapped around the sense of hope. They're strongly related in terms of research and people are very hopeful if they have a sense of mattering. Just wanted to say one thing about self-efficacy that you were mentioning. I was just reading last night some of the classic work
Researcher named the charm on the feelings of young people feeling like they're either upon where they're being pushed around a board by other people with little significance, or they're actually having a sense of agency. And they call he contrasted people as pawns versus origins. And I was reading this and I was thinking.
If you're a child that has a sense of mattering, you are going to fall into that origin category where people have said, we believe you can find the ways to address things, you can overcome things, we have a faith in you that you might not even have in yourself. And I think that this is where a lot of the positive benefits of mattering come from, this sense of, you know, I'm an origin, I make things happen.
Ei niin, ettÀ se tulee narsisistista. TÀllÀ hetkellÀ terveellinen arvo toisistaan ja kysymys toisistaan ja siitÀ, miten he tekevÀt asioita, antaa mielestÀni muotoisuutta. Ajattelin, ettÀ on liian pahaa, ettei Sharmin ole nykyÀÀn olemassa, jossa puhutaan tÀstÀ konseptista ja siitÀ, miten he olisivat liittyneet. Orensit ja koulun tilanteet tekevÀt paremmin, he ovat enemmÀn liittyneitÀ. He ovat vÀhemmistöisempiÀ, kun puhutaan vÀÀrÀstÀ liiketoimintaa tai tyyliÀ. Yksinkertaisesti nÀet matkauksen, sekÀ tutkimusta nuorten kanssa,
Not only is there a sense of hope, there's a very strong sense of agency that I can make things happen, which is why it's a key factor in terms of promoting resilience and also adaptability, which we've shown in some of our work. Gord, I have a philosophical question for you. Do you think strengthening mattering in childhood could shift population level mental health? Oh, yes, I do. I believe that if there's a societal focus on mattering,
That will shift population health. First of all, it's important to point out that there's now about 10 studies that have shown that mattering is associated with the poor health in terms of self-rated, but also objective measures. But I look at it in terms of how many people are out there feeling marginalized and feeling unimportant in society. We know that community research done with surveys of children in the United States that when asked, do you matter in the community?
noin puolet nuorista sanoo, ettÀ heidÀn ei ole vÀÀrÀssÀ yhteisössÀ. Ja sitten on huonompi, jos on muuta marginaalisuutta, stereotyyppiÀ tai stigmaa, joten LGBTQ-lapset, noin yli yli kolme sanoo, ettÀ heidÀn ei ole vÀÀrÀssÀ yhteisössÀ. Ja sanoin, ettÀ kun kÀsittelemme tÀmÀn periaatteessa, saamme nÀhdÀ monenlaisia ongelmia ympÀristössÀ, kuten depressiota ja mielenterveyttÀ tai joitakin vahvempia tapahtumia, jotka ovat siellÀ.
Se frustroi minua siitÀ, miksi meillÀ ei ole enemmÀn huolimatta. Ei tarvitse muuttaa ja antaa jokaiselle tietoa yhteiskunnassa. Yksi henkilö voi muuttaa jokaisen elÀmÀn. MeidÀn tÀytyy tehdÀ tÀtÀ yksinkertaisesti. Minulla oli kollegi, joka puhui siitÀ. HÀn oli saanut suunnitelman ison resilienssi-projektiin. He olivat saaneet miljoonia dollaria tekemÀÀn tÀtÀ. HÀn kuunteli ja sanoi,
They've covered every construct in psychology except mattering. Self-regulation, mindfulness and just generic talk about resilience and just saying, you know, if mattering was prioritized, that this would address so much of the issues that are there in terms of the mental health. Because I do believe that, you know, not mattering can make you susceptible to these problems, but also if you feel like you don't matter, it's going to impact the course of recovery once you have such.
That's why I talk about in terms of the healing power of mattering, the importance of having mattering-centered therapy relationships as well, or sites that are dedicated to getting everybody to feel like they matter. It frustrates me because a little bit could go such a long way. For those who need to have it in terms of dollars or cents, I prefer to focus on the human costs of not promoting mattering, but the actual costs in terms of
Olemme puhuneet työpaikallisuudesta, työllisyyttÀ ja kestÀvÀÀ terveydenhuoltoa. On niin monia arvokkaita indikaatioita, jotka suosittelevat, ettÀ tÀmÀ on myös tapa mennÀ. Mutta lopulta, tietysti ihmiset, jotka osallistuvat tÀhÀn, tuntevat vain paremmin itseÀÀn, kun puhutaan muiden elÀmÀstÀ. Jos on joku, jolla on miljoonia dollaria, ja he haluavat todella tehdÀ eroja, ja olen kuullut tÀtÀ, koska olen kÀynyt keskusteluja, joissa ei ole mitÀÀn miljoonia.
My role formerly as research dean at our university and faculty of health. These people, big donors, there's a subset of them who really do want to improve society. And I would say, if that's the case, take that money, put it into action in terms of promoting mattering. And you'll never be feeling that there was an ounce of energy or money wasted.
If policy makers truly understood this principle, how might schools, communities or mental health systems look different? I have to say about Yuri Bronfenbrenner, a hero of mine. I actually had a very close brush with him because I was at a conference in Washington and I was speaking with my wife. I said, wait a minute, I hear a voice behind me. I know who that voice is. I want to point out, he was often in Washington because he was going in front of the policy makers.
in terms of advocacy and the main message there of somebody needs to be crazy about the kid. So what this would look like in terms of societal change, just as one example, I've made the case and gone on radio in Canada saying, why don't we just have an hour a week in the schools? Forget about the curriculum and let's just focus on promoting the well-being of these young people and their teachers and everybody else in the school in a way that will also intrigue many of them to pursue a career probably
in psychology or counseling. And I've seen schools that have done this, and unfortunately it's not documented where people can find it, but just one example. We had this resilience project with six schools, and I oversaw the research, and I actually looked at every single data point for every kid in that study, and I got to the point where I'm saying, okay, did our resilience intervention work in terms of the experimental ones that received the intervention versus the control group?
I immediately looked and realized it had failed horribly, because there was one school of the control schools that had kids with astronomically high resilience scores and well-being scores. So I went to the school board people I was working with, and I said, what's going on with that one school? And they said, oh yeah, they're one of our best schools. On Mondays, they have Mental Health Mondays school-wide,
And on Fridays they have physical fitness Fridays school wide. And I said, why did you pick them as a control group? Because my advice now is do what they're doing. Because the message that comes on Monday, every Monday and every Friday is that we care about you to the point we're taking school time and we're making this
It doesn't have to take great resources. It doesn't have to take cash outlays. It just means it needs to be a focus where the message is sent, hey, we care about you here so that these are kids who want to get to school and stay engaged as opposed to staying home and dropping off the radar. And this school did it. And I've seen another project. Unfortunately, it didn't go to fruition because the key people at another school board retired. But I asked them, in all the schools you have with all the data, because I got them to ask mattering,
Can you find me schools that are doing way better in terms of kids feeling like they matter versus ones who don't? And they said, yes, here it is. And it wasn't correlated with size of school or well-being, but there was something going on. I said, the next step is we go back and we see what's going on in those schools, starting with the leadership, that it prioritizes the human relationship side, which then feeds into resilience and adaptability.
Yksi koulutuksen, jolla työskennellin, oli se, ettÀ heillÀ oli lapsia, joilla oli henkilökohtaisia ongelmia, jotka eivÀt ole asioita, joita haluaisi luonnollinen nÀkökulma. Sanoin, ettÀ mitÀ löytyy, kun keskitytÀÀn ongelmiin, on se, ettÀ osallistuvat henkilökohtaisiin ongelmiin, nÀet, ettÀ on henkilökohtaisia ongelmia kaikille lapsille,