Grace Beverley

Because of the patriarchy and the reward system, we do naturally become what would be known as pick me's.

Like, as in, like, it is a natural step because you're kind of trying to do the right thing.

You're like, OK, if this is the set of rules, it might be annoying, but this is the set of rules.

Therefore, if I'm the person who wants to have a high-powered job or if I'm the person who wants to get a boyfriend, the natural next step is that you need to fit into those things, which I think is such a formative experience that so many of us have had throughout kind of teenage years.

The system is so robust that...

their husbands or fathers uh word yeah any trial no absolutely and all of this like bleeds through to where we are now in ways that i think so many particularly like newer generations we feel like we are so far from the life that they used to be so like women not being able to buy a house or have a credit card or keep any of their wealth if they didn't have a husband if even if it'd been rightfully theirs or whatever it might be

I think we think we're so far from that.

It's so recent that it is impossible that it would not have knock-on impacts.

And we know the real-life impacts now, but I think that, like, what I'm loving seeing coming through is more of that recognition of, like, guys, we're actually... We're kind of only just over the, you know, step, and actually...

If you're not careful, as we've seen in recent years, things like Roe v. Wade being overturned, all of these different things, it's very easy to get back there.

Yeah, exactly.

I don't want to be that boring.

Yeah, no, 100%.

I actually am so glad you brought that up because I've actually been having some like, I've been having some troubled thoughts.

Because I did a post that was explaining the contradictions of motherhood.

And like particularly like motherhood perception online and even just like women's perception online when it's like, well, you should have a child to contribute to society in any way or to be a worthy woman.

And then but then if you do have a child, like these are all the different things you're measured by.

And then like so many of the comments were like, and it's always by women and it's always from women.

And I do agree that there is absolutely a lot of internalised misogyny that a lot of people hold and is from women to women.

At the same time, I don't think we can say it's always from women when it stems from the patriarchy.