Graham Platner

Right.

Like, or who can't afford, who can't even afford ACA coverage now because premiums have gone up by like triple fold.

Yep.

And, and I mean, these are people I know.

These are my neighbors.

I mean, my,

A relative of mine had to drop her health insurance.

because her premium doubled because of the loss of the ACA extensions.

And I'll just be entirely, entirely upfront.

As long as there is a substantial profit motive with a substantial middleman that

Unless we address that part of the problem, subsidies won't be enough because somebody's going to figure out how to pull more money out of the thing.

Costs will go up.

I do not pretend that it will not be a transition period.

It would be one of the largest projects we've really ever undertaken as a nation to transition from the healthcare system we have to a single-payer universal healthcare system.

But we also have to do it because what we're doing now is insanely expensive and it's terrible.

In many places in rural America, it's totally unsustainable.

It's absolutely falling apart.

I mean, one, I think it's disgusting that we've got people in the White House who

who are literally sitting around thinking about how do we sell a war?

I mean, we went through the run-up to the war in Iraq.