Grandma Gail

We wanted to see which coffee shop we really liked the best, which market we went to.

They're all gone now.

The cleaner that we ended up using that I used for many, many years, you know, all those things that make life more fun to, you know, and the Upper East Side where you are is a wonderful area for young people.

There's so many open air coffee shops and so many restaurants.

terrific things.

And it's so basically so safe that people just enjoy the area.

We don't, I never thought about anything and I think it's actually even gotten better than when I was married.

You were not an adult.

You were not in charge of your own personal things when you lived in the Upper East Side.

Your mom did all that stuff.

So now you're in a different position to find different markets and different little things.

Yeah, but I know everything already.

Well, a lot of the things are the same thing as you had downtown.

Sometimes people, you find little cute little places to go that were not, that, you know, mom didn't use.

So it's a discovery moment.

First of all, I must be very truthful now that we're talking on this podcast.

I got pregnant within six months of when I got married.

So I was only in my first apartment for a little over a year.

Yeah, but you only moved a few blocks after.

Well, but that's what I was going to say.